Analyzing Mike Shanahan at the Midway Point

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

Like I said, Shannahan deserves a D, I just wanted to remind those who strangely thought he deserved an A or a B, for what? What has he improved? The worst mistake of the Snyder era.

People wanted Fassel, Gruden Cowher, Billick, etc. all those coaches listed probably would have accomplished the same as Shanahan or less. I wanted Harbaugh or Holmgren, look what Holmgren has accomplished in Cleveland and Harbaugh in my opinion will be the next great coach in the NFL. I'll give Shanahan another year to see what he can do before I give up on him.

[44ever]

The D's are slowly creeping up

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

People wanted Fassel, Gruden Cowher, Billick, etc. all those coaches listed probably would have accomplished the same as Shanahan or less. I wanted Harbaugh or Holmgren, look what Holmgren has accomplished in Cleveland and Harbaugh in my opinion will be the next great coach in the NFL. I'll give Shanahan another year to see what he can do before I give up on him.

Harbaugh will definitely make a great NFL coach. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up in San Francisco next year. As for Holmgren, I would of preferred him over Shannahan too. To bad we're stuck with Shannahan for time being.

[warpaint]

So the reason AH92 was inactive today was that he was sick on Friday, and he was late by 1 minute on the field and he wasn't told that he wouldn't play today until he showed up at the stadium today. Shanny is a peace of work. WTF IS GOING ON HERE?

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by warpaint

So the reason AH92 was inactive today was that he was sick on Friday, and he was late by 1 minute on the field and he wasn't told that he wouldn't play today until he showed up at the stadium today. Shanny is a peace of work. WTF IS GOING ON HERE?

if this is true that is a joke, and shanny's ego is bigger than i thought. i'm really sick of these shanahanigans (heard it here first)

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

if this is true that is a joke, and shanny's ego is bigger than i thought. i'm really sick of these shanahanigans (heard it here first)

I heard this from a reporter on the radio Greg Paulsen is his name he got it from an anonymous source on the team.

[mlmdub130]

damn it, i thought i coined it! screw it delete your post i'm rollin with it as my own

edit: guess you were talkin about the report, shanahanigans is all mine, gotta get a hold of my sign guy asap!!

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by warpaint

I heard this from a reporter on the radio Greg Paulsen is his name he got it from an anonymous source on the team.

Albert Haynesworth wanted to play
By Rick Maese

Albert Haynesworth said he was healthy enough to play in Sunday's 31-7 loss to the New York Giants and was surprised that Coach Mike Shanahan instead opted to deactivate the veteran defensive lineman

"I thought it was a do or die situation and that we needed to do everything to win," Haynesworth said.

Shanahan said Haynesworth's performance -- or lack thereof -- in practice last week contributed to his decision to sit the two-time All-Pro.

"Well, he didn't practice on Friday; he was sick," Shanahan said. "On Thursday, he didn't have one of his better practices and we weren't sure what the reason was. I'm guessing it's because he was sick -- because he didn't practice on Friday. Without practicing Friday and Thursday not having one of his better practices, we kept him inactive."

A team source said that last week Haynesworth missed at least one meeting and was late to at least one more. Haynesworth confirmed that he was late on Friday because he he was ill.

"I was sick, so I did show up a minute late," Haynesworth said. "I don't think that's a reason to sit out."

He was listed as questionable on the final injury report of the week due to an illness.

Haynesworth said he wasn't given any further explanation about being deactivated Sunday. Asked if he was upset by Shanahan's decision, he said: "It's whatever. If they chose to sit me, they chose to sit me. This is their organization. I'm just a piece."

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

People wanted Fassel, Gruden Cowher, Billick, etc. all those coaches listed probably would have accomplished the same as Shanahan or less. I wanted Harbaugh or Holmgren, look what Holmgren has accomplished in Cleveland and Harbaugh in my opinion will be the next great coach in the NFL. I'll give Shanahan another year to see what he can do before I give up on him.

What exactly has Holmgren accomplished in Cleveland?

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What exactly has Holmgren accomplished in Cleveland?

A 5-7 Record, just like us....

Although I realistically could see the Browns being a playoff contender in a year. They're actually a really fun team to watch.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

People wanted Fassel, Gruden Cowher, Billick, etc. all those coaches listed probably would have accomplished the same as Shanahan or less. I wanted Harbaugh or Holmgren, look what Holmgren has accomplished in Cleveland and Harbaugh in my opinion will be the next great coach in the NFL. I'll give Shanahan another year to see what he can do before I give up on him.

Then consider yourself Dan Snyder, thats been his MO since he has been here to quick to pull the plug.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What exactly has Holmgren accomplished in Cleveland?

As a GM he has made this team very competitive, they've beaten NO, Miami and NE, have been in just about every game. He didn't give up the farm for Delhomme, drafted McCoy, traded for Hillis, etc. I say the Browns are a much better team than the Redskins right now.

Sun 9/12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Tampa Bay (0-0) L 14 - 17
Sun 9/19 Kansas City Chiefs Kansas City (1-0) L 14 - 16
Sun 9/26 Baltimore Ravens at Baltimore (1-1) L 17 - 24
Sun 10/3 Cincinnati Bengals Cincinnati (2-1) W 23 - 20
Sun 10/10 Atlanta Falcons Atlanta (3-1) L 10 - 20
Sun 10/17 Pittsburgh Steelers at Pittsburgh (3-1) L 10 - 28
Sun 10/24 New Orleans Saints at New Orleans (4-2) W 30 - 17
Sun 11/7 New England Patriots New England (6-1) W 34 - 14
Sun 11/14 New York Jets NY Jets (6-2) L 20 - 26
Sun 11/21 Jacksonville Jaguars at Jacksonville (5-4) L 20 - 24
Sun 11/28 Carolina Panthers Carolina (1-9) W 24 - 23
Sun 12/5 Miami Dolphins at Miami (6-5) W 13 - 10

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by 44ever

The D's are slowly creeping up

Which is what you'd expect after two losses in a row.

So far, my grade would be 'incomplete'. I find calls for his departure or firing absurd at this point though. He doesn't have all his pieces in place yet. You have to give him more than 12 games for gods sake.

If there's no improvement in, say, 2 years or so; if we're hopelessly last in the division, if there's still a higher ratio of overpaid, overhyped players with no apparent incentive other than to collect a paycheck, then yes, the Shanahan experiment will have been a failure.

I don't see how anybody can say that now though.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by warpaint

Then consider yourself Dan Snyder, thats been his MO since he has been here to quick to pull the plug.

Seriously, coaches need a minimum of three years, in my opinion. Unless things are such a trainwreck; like in Zorn's case....

Like today was pathetic, and thats just as much on Shannahan as it is the players... and I absolutley hate the way that Shanahan has handled the Haynesworth situation...but until he really gets a chance to get some guys in here then I still want to give it time....

I am very dissapointed to see how this team seems to have regressed instead of progressed over the course of the year though...

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

A 5-7 Record, just like us....

Although I realistically could see the Browns being a playoff contender in a year. They're actually a really fun team to watch.

I agree. McCoy has looked good, they have some nice young pieces on the defense, Hillis is an absolute beast of a player, they have a young franchise LT, Josh Cribbs, etc... They're a young, up and coming team for sure.

The Redskins on the other hand are old, injured, and largely talentless. Not really a good combo.