2011 NFL Draft: Rounds 4-7

[skinsfaninok]

^ agree my only concern is QB, who's the guy?!

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

^ agree my only concern is QB, who's the guy?!

I wish I knew! I have to trust in the FO and Shanny at his point. I have thought in my mind all along that I have no problem with Team Building this year shoreing up the many area's that are depleted (and get by with whover the best we can get at QB....for now) and working in earnest in 2012 for the francise man.
Perhaps that is what they are doing?

[r08kessl]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I wish I knew! I have to trust in the FO and Shanny at his point. I have thought in my mind all along that I have no problem with Team Building this year shoreing up the many area's that are depleted (and get by with whover the best we can get at QB....for now) and working in earnest in 2012 for the francise man.
Perhaps that is what they are doing?

I think the most encouraging thing about this entire draft is the fact that they passed on taking a QB. We have both Shanahans, two guys who build offenses and know the importance of a QB to running that offense, and yet they passed on all the QB's. I think both of them recognized that every single QB in this draft was severely overrated due to the lack of talent, and that in addition to being overrated teams would over reach for them. That combined with the fact that the QB pool for next year looks to be much, much better and they obviously decided that they would wait for next year and get their guy instead of wasting a pick that we obviously need in other places on a QB that wasn't really going to be their guy.
Despite how much I love what we did in this years draft, I think next year we give up whatever we have to to get Andrew Luck. A lot of mediocre teams took a QB this year, and with any luck one of them will be picking first and Luck will be ours for the taking. When you have a guy that has the talent, size, and smarts to be the next great QB you give up what you have to, to go get him.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by r08kessl

I think the most encouraging thing about this entire draft is the fact that they passed on taking a QB. We have both Shanahans, two guys who build offenses and know the importance of a QB to running that offense, and yet they passed on all the QB's. I think both of them recognized that every single QB in this draft was severely overrated due to the lack of talent, and that in addition to being overrated teams would over reach for them. That combined with the fact that the QB pool for next year looks to be much, much better and they obviously decided that they would wait for next year and get their guy instead of wasting a pick that we obviously need in other places on a QB that wasn't really going to be their guy.
Despite how much I love what we did in this years draft, I think next year we give up whatever we have to to get Andrew Luck. A lot of mediocre teams took a QB this year, and with any luck one of them will be picking first and Luck will be ours for the taking. When you have a guy that has the talent, size, and smarts to be the next great QB you give up what you have to, to go get him.

Totally...Totally..and OMG I hate to even think what it will take to trade into the "Luck" pick.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Totally...Totally..and OMG I hate to even think what it will take to trade into the "Luck" pick.

I think Cleveland will be deeply involved in the Luck Lottery, barring either a McCoy break out year, or a Luck meltdown. Remember, they just got Atlanta's 1st, and 4th pick, plus theirs. They could offer 2 1sts and the next year 1st to whoever gets the first overall. (and with Baltimore and Pitt twice next year), chances are Cleveland's own pick will be top 15.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think Cleveland will be deeply involved in the Luck Lottery, barring either a McCoy break out year, or a Luck meltdown. Remember, they just got Atlanta's 1st, and 4th pick, plus theirs. They could offer 2 1sts and the next year 1st to whoever gets the first overall. (and with Baltimore and Pitt twice next year), chances are Cleveland's own pick will be top 15.

Good Point....All things being equal. it will be pricey

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think Cleveland will be deeply involved in the Luck Lottery, barring either a McCoy break out year, or a Luck meltdown. Remember, they just got Atlanta's 1st, and 4th pick, plus theirs. They could offer 2 1sts and the next year 1st to whoever gets the first overall. (and with Baltimore and Pitt twice next year), chances are Cleveland's own pick will be top 15.

Oh God have mercy on Carolina if they end up with the first overall pick next year. Still I think it'll either be Buffalo or Cincinnati.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Oh God have mercy on Carolina if they end up with the first overall pick next year. Still I think it'll either be Buffalo or Cincinnati.

Does Carolina even have the money to guarantee 100+ milllion total over 4 or more years to Luck and Newton?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Totally...Totally..and OMG I hate to even think what it will take to trade into the "Luck" pick.

I don't think that will even be a possibility.

[REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE]

CBS Sportsline.com showing us some love:



Washington Redskins Draft Grade: A

Historically known for aggressively trading up in the draft, the Redskins took the opposite strategy in 2011, deftly moving down the board, picking up more selections and still addressing keys area of need. Having run a 3-4 defense for the past few seasons despite fielding a team largely built on 4-3 personnel, the Redskins added a prototypical edge-rusher in Ryan Kerrigan to pair with Brian Orakpo. While many characterized the Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year as strictly a 4-3 defensive end, Kerrigan actually projects better as an OLB as he doesn't use his hands particularly well, but has burst, agility and great instincts. The Redskins added a classic five-technique defensive end in Clemson's Jarvis Jenkins in the second round and addressed their need for receivers with size in Miami's Leonard Hankerson and Nebraska's Niles Paul in the third and fifth rounds. No head coach has enjoyed as much success with late-round running backs as Mike Shanahan, and he could have worked his magic again with Roy Helu (Nebraska) and Penn State's Evan Royster in the fourth and sixth rounds. Helu, in particular, is an ideal fit in a zone-scheme, as he can plant his foot and accelerate downhill explosively. In terms of adding multiple players who fit their scheme and will improve the overall talent of their club, no team was more effective this year than the Redskins.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE

CBS Sportsline.com showing us some love:



Washington Redskins Draft Grade: A

Historically known for aggressively trading up in the draft, the Redskins took the opposite strategy in 2011, deftly moving down the board, picking up more selections and still addressing keys area of need. Having run a 3-4 defense for the past few seasons despite fielding a team largely built on 4-3 personnel, the Redskins added a prototypical edge-rusher in Ryan Kerrigan to pair with Brian Orakpo. While many characterized the Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year as strictly a 4-3 defensive end, Kerrigan actually projects better as an OLB as he doesn't use his hands particularly well, but has burst, agility and great instincts. The Redskins added a classic five-technique defensive end in Clemson's Jarvis Jenkins in the second round and addressed their need for receivers with size in Miami's Leonard Hankerson and Nebraska's Niles Paul in the third and fifth rounds. No head coach has enjoyed as much success with late-round running backs as Mike Shanahan, and he could have worked his magic again with Roy Helu (Nebraska) and Penn State's Evan Royster in the fourth and sixth rounds. Helu, in particular, is an ideal fit in a zone-scheme, as he can plant his foot and accelerate downhill explosively. In terms of adding multiple players who fit their scheme and will improve the overall talent of their club, no team was more effective this year than the Redskins.

Finally some love.

[REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE]

Ok, Im O-Ding on highlight reels again. I retract my previous statements regarding Roy Helu. Dude is a beast, definitely faster then I gave him credit for. I just really wanted Ryan Williams. Now that Ive had a chance to relax, definitely loving the Helu pick up.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE

CBS Sportsline.com showing us some love:



Washington Redskins Draft Grade: A

Historically known for aggressively trading up in the draft, the Redskins took the opposite strategy in 2011, deftly moving down the board, picking up more selections and still addressing keys area of need. Having run a 3-4 defense for the past few seasons despite fielding a team largely built on 4-3 personnel, the Redskins added a prototypical edge-rusher in Ryan Kerrigan to pair with Brian Orakpo. While many characterized the Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year as strictly a 4-3 defensive end, Kerrigan actually projects better as an OLB as he doesn't use his hands particularly well, but has burst, agility and great instincts. The Redskins added a classic five-technique defensive end in Clemson's Jarvis Jenkins in the second round and addressed their need for receivers with size in Miami's Leonard Hankerson and Nebraska's Niles Paul in the third and fifth rounds. No head coach has enjoyed as much success with late-round running backs as Mike Shanahan, and he could have worked his magic again with Roy Helu (Nebraska) and Penn State's Evan Royster in the fourth and sixth rounds. Helu, in particular, is an ideal fit in a zone-scheme, as he can plant his foot and accelerate downhill explosively. In terms of adding multiple players who fit their scheme and will improve the overall talent of their club, no team was more effective this year than the Redskins.

This is how I came away feeling about the draft. Although, I wish locker would have been there at #10....it may work out better for our future that we traded down and were able to get the ammo to manuever.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE

CBS Sportsline.com showing us some love:



Washington Redskins Draft Grade: A

Historically known for aggressively trading up in the draft, the Redskins took the opposite strategy in 2011, deftly moving down the board, picking up more selections and still addressing keys area of need. Having run a 3-4 defense for the past few seasons despite fielding a team largely built on 4-3 personnel, the Redskins added a prototypical edge-rusher in Ryan Kerrigan to pair with Brian Orakpo. While many characterized the Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year as strictly a 4-3 defensive end, Kerrigan actually projects better as an OLB as he doesn't use his hands particularly well, but has burst, agility and great instincts. The Redskins added a classic five-technique defensive end in Clemson's Jarvis Jenkins in the second round and addressed their need for receivers with size in Miami's Leonard Hankerson and Nebraska's Niles Paul in the third and fifth rounds. No head coach has enjoyed as much success with late-round running backs as Mike Shanahan, and he could have worked his magic again with Roy Helu (Nebraska) and Penn State's Evan Royster in the fourth and sixth rounds. Helu, in particular, is an ideal fit in a zone-scheme, as he can plant his foot and accelerate downhill explosively. In terms of adding multiple players who fit their scheme and will improve the overall talent of their club, no team was more effective this year than the Redskins.

http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-re...kiper-redskins

Mel Kiper gave us C draft grade

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by r08kessl

I think the most encouraging thing about this entire draft is the fact that they passed on taking a QB. We have both Shanahans, two guys who build offenses and know the importance of a QB to running that offense, and yet they passed on all the QB's. I think both of them recognized that every single QB in this draft was severely overrated due to the lack of talent, and that in addition to being overrated teams would over reach for them. That combined with the fact that the QB pool for next year looks to be much, much better and they obviously decided that they would wait for next year and get their guy instead of wasting a pick that we obviously need in other places on a QB that wasn't really going to be their guy.
Despite how much I love what we did in this years draft, I think next year we give up whatever we have to to get Andrew Luck. A lot of mediocre teams took a QB this year, and with any luck one of them will be picking first and Luck will be ours for the taking. When you have a guy that has the talent, size, and smarts to be the next great QB you give up what you have to, to go get him.

Shanahan had only to look at his current roster and see a QB...[John Beck] who had better numbers coming out of college than the vast majority of top QB prospects in this 2011 draft. He was forced to play before he was ready and his career has suffered as a result. The exact same thing is going to happen to the reached in this draft. Shanahan took the safe way and decided not to take the leap when equal or better may already be in his lap.