Rogers Ready to Move On

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

...and that following week, he got smoked by a rookie QB and some scrub receivers from St. Louis. /facepalm

Just like the whole team.

I don't get this obsession with b*tching about just one player.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Great response...but maybe he has a bit of a short-term memory

Redskins Insider - DeAngelo Hall says he'll track opponent's top wideout

Yup, he needs to follow his own (recent) advice next season.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Just like the whole team.

I don't get this obsession with b*tching about just one player.

Well, it basically was ONE player, who the week prior, is basically telling the coaches that you ****ed up by not putting me on the top WR, and pretty much throwing his teammates (reed/buchanon) under the bus. I expect that guy to come out and back up the talk that he's top notch, not get his ass roasted by sub-par Ram receivers and a rookie QB. For the record, I don't blame him solely for that loss because everybody was pretty much shitty in that game.

Hall is just another guy we need to move on from. He's part of the old Vinny regime that needs to go. Flashy FA guys that can't back up what they are being paid or what they are saying. I understand we can't at this time, but his time is coming.

I hope SirClintonPortis is right about our additions to the DL helping out D. Hall's game. I'm just glad Rogers is heading out the door. I think him quitting on the team to save himself (after he was cleared) for a contract totally turned me off on this guy. I just get a bit annoyed with so many people roasting the guy for dropping INTs and patting D. Hall. At least be consistent.

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Well, it basically was ONE player, who the week prior, is basically telling the coaches that you ****ed up by not putting me on the top WR, and pretty much throwing his teammates (reed/buchanon) under the bus. I expect that guy to come out and back up the talk that he's top notch, not get his ass roasted by sub-par Ram receivers and a rookie QB. For the record, I don't blame him solely for that loss because everybody was pretty much shitty in that game.

Hall is just another guy we need to move on from. He's part of the old Vinny regime that needs to go. Flashy FA guys that can't back up what they are being paid or what they are saying. I understand we can't at this time, but his time is coming.

I hope SirClintonPortis is right about our additions to the DL helping out D. Hall's game. I'm just glad Rogers is heading out the door. I think him quitting on the team to save himself (after he was cleared) for a contract totally turned me off on this guy. I just get a bit annoyed with so many people roasting the guy for dropping INTs and patting D. Hall. At least be consistent.

I would rather, at this point, move on from both Hall and Rogers than try to pick which one is more "deserving" of top money. Hall is starting to get towards the expensive years in his contract, the ones that he'll never be able to back up in his play.

On the other hand, you could give Rogers top ten money and get a bargain for a couple of years, but you'd either have a lot of deadcap in 2013 or 2014 (right when any rebuilding project would be starting to pay dividends), or you'd have a corner making top money who no longer has the ability to run with no. 1 wideouts like Hakeem Nicks, Jeremy Maclin, and Dez Bryant. I think Rogers is going to be one of the best free agent signings of the offseason for some contender, but I don't think it makes a lot of sense to pay him now. Vinny should have extended him at age 27 and not paid Hall so much money. We wouldn't have had a bottom third defense last year if he did that.

I'd like to see Barnes at one corner next year and Buchanon back on a one/two year deal as the second corner.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Well, it basically was ONE player, who the week prior, is basically telling the coaches that you ****ed up by not putting me on the top WR, and pretty much throwing his teammates (reed/buchanon) under the bus. I expect that guy to come out and back up the talk that he's top notch, not get his ass roasted by sub-par Ram receivers and a rookie QB. For the record, I don't blame him solely for that loss because everybody was pretty much shitty in that game.

Well the coaches did f*ck up and so did Buchanon (I don't blame Reed, b/c he should've never been in that position). Hall didn't need to say that crap, but still one of the best WRs in the league was left one-on-one with our back up safety.

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Hall is just another guy we need to move on from. He's part of the old Vinny regime that needs to go. Flashy FA guys that can't back up what they are being paid or what they are saying. I understand we can't at this time, but his time is coming.

We really don't and Hall hasn't said anything since to say otherwise. Hall is not an elite corner, but he's right now the only starting-caliber corner we have on contract. Also, a lot of players say a lot of crap and people just need to accept that and move on. Plus if Hall was as bad as you make him out to be, I'm sure he'd be in Shanahan's dog house (see Haynesworth)

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I hope SirClintonPortis is right about our additions to the DL helping out D. Hall's game. I'm just glad Rogers is heading out the door. I think him quitting on the team to save himself (after he was cleared) for a contract totally turned me off on this guy. I just get a bit annoyed with so many people roasting the guy for dropping INTs and patting D. Hall. At least be consistent.

Well that happens because Rogers opened his mouth period and because your average fan only sees the flashy things...sacks, fumbles, INTs, TDs, etc., etc., etc.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well the coaches did f*ck up and so did Buchanon (I don't blame Reed, b/c he should've never been in that position). Hall didn't need to say that crap, but still one of the best WRs in the league was left one-on-one with our back up safety.

That's still not fair. I don't give a shit if it were Ed Reed (D. Hall, Revis,etc) back there, Andre Johnson was going to catch that ball. It's why he's the best in the NFL. Now, we can make the point that he should have been double covered.

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Plus if Hall was as bad as you make him out to be, I'm sure he'd be in Shanahan's dog house (see Haynesworth)

I don't think D. Hall is that "sort" of bad. Haynesworth is defiant, refuses to cooperate with coaches or do what he's asked. He comes into camp out of shape, doesn't give a shit. That's what lands you in Shanny's doghouse. I think D. Hall does goes hard on every play, and that's not something I question in his play. The guy has the tools, the drive, just not the discipline needed for the position. If he had the discipline, I think the guy could be the best CB in the league hands down. Hopefully his style of play will be much better this year with our revamped defensive front.

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well that happens because Rogers opened his mouth period and because your average fan only sees the flashy things...sacks, fumbles, INTs, TDs, etc., etc., etc.

It's going to be nice watching a game now when it's close and our CB jumps up to grab the ball, you know now we have a chance in picking it off...lol