Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??

Not gonna piss him off. He will worry about his TDs because he thinks they will always use TJ at the goal line, but he will happy with him as a teamate once he realizes Gibbs and crew won't screw him out of TDs.

He's their man, they aren't gonna steal TDs from him and upset him...hell, he's the #1 sure thing on the offense BECAUSE...does brunell still have it...does cambell have it...if not, will cambell get it...if its bad at QB, the recievers aren't sure things...and if its bad at QB the RBs will be used to make any possible weakness at QB a non factor.

Ladell Betts is a better back than Duckett. He's not getting cut. Cartwright got a new deal this offseason. Hes not getting cut. So unless someone comes calling for one of them, 4 backs will make the roster. Lumsden will be squaded, most likely. Assuming they all make the roster, all 3 of Portis' backups will see carries. It's important to keep Portis' carry total in the 300 range.

Hmm, I think I'm redoing my 53 man roster predictions.

Duckett will probably be used on short yardage situations... how about a "wishbone" formation inside the 5: Duckett, Sellers, and Rock lined up behind Brunell, any one of them is an outstanding lead blocker, followed by another lead blocker followed by a runner who if hit can still make it across the goal line from the 5.Haha. I like the way you think. This isnt anywhere near a legal formation though.

Ladell Betts is a better back than Duckett. He's not getting cut. Cartwright got a new deal this offseason. Hes not getting cut. So unless someone comes calling for one of them, 4 backs will make the roster. Lumsden will be squaded, most likely. Assuming they all make the roster, all 3 of Portis' backups will see carries. It's important to keep Portis' carry total in the 300 range.

Hmm, I think I'm redoing my 53 man roster predictions.

I would love to see Portis's number of carries go down, but his YPC go up. 300 carries equates to 18-19 carries a game, which would be great. T.J. could get 5-10 a game all of the 3 down and 1's and "spelling" Portis for a few carries. Betts is still our KR guy and Cartwright is still a great special teamer. My only problem is that I have Portis as a keeper in my Fantasy League, and his numbers will go down. But hey, without T.J, Portis might get hurt this year and be out, not just limited, so I am OK with this trade.

Haha. I like the way you think. This isnt anywhere near a legal formation though.

I thought since that would leave 2 TE/WRs/whatevers to lineup on the line outside the tackles I would be a legal formation? Not saying I like it(too many bodies in too little space, big bodies) Just wondering why it wouldn't be legal. Sorry if its a dumb question pertaining to formations, I'd rather find out the facts now rather than wonder and not know.

I would put several other guys out there before Rock to lead block/carry starting with Cooley, White Jr., Nemo, even Faria and Johnson for blocking, not sure about carrying.

portis shouldn't be mad. he's hurt and still our #1 when healthy. betts should be mad, because duckett is clearly a better player.

I thought since that would leave 2 TE/WRs/whatevers to lineup on the line outside the tackles I would be a legal formation? Not saying I like it(too many bodies in too little space, big bodies) Just wondering why it wouldn't be legal. Sorry if its a dumb question pertaining to formations, I'd rather find out the facts now rather than wonder and not know.

I would put several other guys out there before Rock to lead block/carry starting with Cooley, White Jr., Nemo, even Faria and Johnson for blocking, not sure about carrying.

As far as the formation goes as long as there is seven men on the line and the closest man to the sideline being an eligible receiver of some sort its cool. So a full house backfield is legal. I guess.

As far as the formation goes as long as there is seven men on the line and the closest man to the sideline being an eligible receiver of some sort its cool. So a full house backfield is legal. I guess.


Thats what I thought, didn't know if the rules had changed though. Someone in atlanta not too many years ago used to run these types of formations, Glanville maybe? Someone smart help me figure out who please. He'd have the 5 moveable guys all in the middle, sometimes wishbone with 2 TEs, sometimes an I with an offset rb and 2 TEs, sometimes wishbone with one TE on the line, one WR out wide....and I don't know why i'm babbleing about it so i'll stop now.

writing this post has made me ok with this trade. before this i hated it.

Sellers wasn't even told, he found out from the radio. after looking like a TJ Duckett in the Jets game only 30lbs HEAVIER. after all his TDs last year, and the Saunders talk about expanding his role even further, Sellers must've felt like he just found out his winning lottery ticket was fake. and he EARNED that ticket.

then CP, well yeah he's a team guy like eveyone's said. and i think he genuinely feels bad for Mike and Ladell because they all felt good about their crew.

CP is also a die-hard competitor though, and he is supremely confident about his abilities. "I'm a bruiser too" was his initial comment, and he's been repeating all offseason how he's 220 lbs (everywhere else says 212 or even 205). when Portis reacted to that, it was because he knows he just as likely to get a 3rd and 1 as Duckett (by finding and jumping into a hole Duckett wouldn't even see) and doesn't want to be automatically counted out in those situations.

But Portis has to feel like that. He has to weigh 220lbs in his head to convince himself, because that's honestly how he plays. dude has absolutely no fear, as every blitzer who's played against the Redskins knows well. Just ask the guy who's helmet he knocked off in the first preseason game, before he bodyslammed the interceptor to the ground. That's Portis, bless him.

Duckett can't touch Portis as a producer, or presence, on this team. the possibilities of Portis on the field are just so vast, whether its rushing, catching, or even pass blocking. and yes, off the field too, in costume and keeping the locker room bursting in laughter.

I've also come to realize Duckett isn't a replacement for Sellers. because Duckett isn't used to crushing people WITHOUT carrying the ball. whether its lead blocking or busting wedges on special teams. and Duckett isn't the surprise to defenses that Sellers is on the goaline or as a sudden ball carrier.

that preseason game was a wake up call of sorts, cuz Gibbs realized how Portis playing like that can't last, especially as he gets older. and he got a talented, young player who's everything Portis's backup is not. RELIABLE. he also happens to be way more of the change of pace in the big category than Ladell ever was. It was solid insurance, and a nice new offensive option all in one player.

all i have left on my mind concerning this trade is what cornerback we can get for Ladell.

Personally I'm starting to think we'll keep Betts.

Not just because Gibbs said so, but let's think about it a second. I really like the comparison to our RB crew of 1991. Byner was the main back, Ervins was the change of pace back, and Riggs was the goal line and short yardage back. Let's look at what that trio did stats wise.

Byner: 274 carries for 1048 yards, 3.8 yards per carry, 5 TDs, 34 catches for 308 yards, 9.1 per catch.

Ervins: 145 carries for 680 yards, 4.7 yards per carry, 3 TDs, 16 catches for 181 yards, 11.3 per catch, 1 TD.

Riggs: 78 carries for 248 yards, 3.2 yards per carry, 11 TDs, 1 catch for 5 yards.

Add all of that up and you have an overall production from the backfield of:

497 carries for 1976 yards, 3.975 yards per rush, 19 TDs, 51 receptions for 494 yards, 1 TD.

That's a big-time backfield folks, and there's no way you can get that kind of production from one back let alone two typically speaking.