Rumored Portis Trade offered FROM! the Lions

Am I the only one who saw Betts fumble away the Bucs game, fumble away the Rams game and have a key fumble in the Giants game? Yes he had a great run of yards but he is not a 16 game featured running back.. Trading Portis or even talking about it is ridiculous. Portis is a top 10 RB, maybe even top 5 (LJ, LT, Alexander, Jackson, ??) so to be talking about dealing him because Betts had a good quarter season is crazy.

Am I the only one who saw Betts fumble away the Bucs game, fumble away the Rams game and have a key fumble in the Giants game? Yes he had a great run of yards but he is not a 16 game featured running back.. Trading Portis or even talking about it is ridiculous. Portis is a top 10 RB, maybe even top 5 (LJ, LT, Alexander, Jackson, ??) so to be talking about dealing him because Betts had a good quarter season is crazy.

I think Portis is a top five back. That's why the Redskins can't just let him go for peanuts.

i would do the 2nd trade in a heart beat. get a corner + 2 picks for portis is a steal. 1st thing is that Jones looks like he might miss the entire 2007 season. #2 we need to get young, cause getting younger will makes hungry. players see the redskins as a payday. just look at achuleta, deon, smith. then look at the young players we let go, pierce, BAILEY. i would do it, hell fire gibbs and the entire staff and bring in grimm...

I've heard KJ should be ready week one. Portis isn't untradeable, no one really is. But I really think it's going to take a whole lot to make any move.

Let me first say that I love CP, and I hope he stays...he brings an intangible that is difficult to quantify. The guy is a competitor and a winner. That said, the NFL is a business and EVERYONE is tradeable for the right price.

Seems to me like Millen is grasping here. He knows the Skins aren't afraid to talk big when it comes to trades and Millen needs to bring in a "franchise" type player to keep management off his back since he has decided to keep Marinelli at HC.

That said, no way do I take Bly plus a #2 for #6 swap. Bly is good but not great, and the difference between a #2 and a #6 is not worth it, especially in this draft. Assuming we are going after a DE in the draft your options are Gaines Adams our Victor Abraimiri. Gaines is a projected 2nd or 3rd pick, and Abraimiri is projected 6th or 7th. Gaines is better, but not so much better that he's worth the trade. Either guy will be a contributor and a long term anchor on the D-line. If the deal included Detroit's 2nd rounder, Bly, and the swap, however, I think it'll happen.

BTW, for all those that don't think Betts can be a #1 option...if you extrapolate his numbers this year, he would have had nearly 1700 yards in a full season. Fumblitisis a problem but it can be fixed...just look at Tiki Barber. Portis is better, no doubt, but Betts is a serviceable #1 in my opinion.

If we trade CP it would kill what little morale this team has left. I cant trust Betts as an everydown back, and why would you trade your best offensive player when your trying to groom a young QB. If we did the deal for Bly and the #2 pick, whats to say that Bly doesnt come here and suck and the #2 pick doesnt end up being a bust? I dont trust giving up a proven top 10 if not top 5 back for unproven talent. I dont want to see Portis traded for anything, we gave up alot for him and hes been everything we expected him to be, minus the injury this year. Theres a reason teams are chomping at the bit to get Portis, they know how great he is and cant believe hes even available, man does this team love to rip my heart out.

I think it's important to keep in mind that these are just rumors. And even if they have some modicum of truth to them they're all about what the Lions are offering. No where has any mention been made that the Redskins are actively shopping Portis.

Setting aside the fact that it is just a rumor. I think the fact that Betts has been a Redskin longer than Portis will help prevent morale loss. The team seemed just as excited having him back there as they did with Portis. I don't think it's going to be a morale killer trading him for team needs.

Once again, I don't want him to be traded unless the deal is just too sweet to pass up.

Setting aside the fact that it is just a rumor. I think the fact that Betts has been a Redskin longer than Portis will help prevent morale loss. The team seemed just as excited having him back there as they did with Portis. I don't think it's going to be a morale killer trading him for team needs.

Once again, I don't want him to be traded unless the deal is just too sweet to pass up.

But see the problem I have with that is, what constitutes "too good to pass up." They can try to spin it that way if they want to. They could act like Domanick Williams (formerly Davis) and a 3rd round draft pick was too good to pass up. Might now work, but now, think about the fact the fact that they control much of the media that covers them and it just might work.

Detroit could use Clinton Portis. Kevin Jones is a serviceable running back, but I don't know that I would call him "good." I think part of the problem he has is a pretty weak O Line. Also, he's never played 16 games and the past 2 years he's had his seasons cut short. Still, he only ran for 1000+ in his rookie season, since then, he hasn't cracked 700 yards. I think that's a pretty decent indictment of him.

Also, when one of the better running backs in the NFL is perceived to be available, everyone should be showing interest short of San Diego and KC. I'm not really all that surprised by the fact that the Lions would come after him and if I'm Washington, and actually looking to deal Portis, I would have to look twice at Bly and the 2nd overall. Then, they would have filled a need at corner (albeit a relatively old one) and have 2 picks in the top 6. They could shop for those or draft whoever they want.

All that said, I'm gonna be insanely pissed if Clinton Portis gets traded this offseason. I will be irrate and wish I could turn off the love of the team.

Finally, anyone think maybe Clinton rubbed the organization the wrong way with that interview? I don't mind what he said, but maybe Joe Gibbs/Cerrato/Snyder/Saunders did and might be a little more open to trading him than they were before.

One other quick thing, just because Joe Gibbs categorically denied that they're trading Clinton holds very little water with me. He also said, going into the 05(?) draft that "we're gonna go get Patrick Ramsey some weapons" and then they picked Rogers and Campbell.

I think he has rubbed some people the wrong way bitching about preseason. He also does not like to practice, lift weights and do the whole OTA thing. He just wants to train in South Beach which you know pisses off Gibbs. Gibbs likes the players around Redskin Park. How does it look if your best player isn't there busting his ass to set an example? I bet JC will be there. But he performs so they deal with it. So I think there is some truth to these rumors. But I don't think he's going anywhere. I hope we don't trade him either. But if the right deal comes along where the defense can be improved right away I would pull the trigger.