Civil Discussion About Religion

#1) I work at a bar/restaurant called "Hard Times Cafe"... I get out of there around 3:00/3:30 so Im usually up for a good hour after I get off. My schedule varies greatly, so some Im always on at awkward times.

#2) You just irked every 311 fan in the world on that one. I'll clear the air for ya:

I understand the working at a restaurant part...I often post at those hours due to my wierd restaurant work schedule.

About #2, I actually did not know that...311 was never one of my favorite bands...they weren't that good IMO...so I never had any reason to doubt that "rumor".

By that logic, the Bible and/or religion is a set of lies to "scare us straight" -- albeit with honorable intentions. Yet, isn't lying a sin? That is a contradiction.

EDIT: you did say "kind of like when your parents...", so I guess it was just a bad example.

haha, yeah.
I also keep in mind that the bible has been translated by humans over the years, I take the bible for it's value.

Back to religion.
So what would you do if you God is real, and he is upset at you for spreading word that He doesn't exist?
That is not to say that it will happen, but what if.

Back to religion.
So what would you do if you God is real, and he is upset at you for spreading word that He doesn't exist?
That is not to say that it will happen, but what if.

I think this is a fairly simple answer, actually. What would you do if your young child was spreading word that you don't exist? Shake your head and laugh saying "kids will say the darndest things".

I think this is a fairly simple answer, actually. What would you do if your young child was spreading word that you don't exist? Shake your head and laugh saying "kids will say the darndest things".

That's a very interesting take on that question.
Like I said before, I find it hard to believe that an all loving God would purposely send his children to hell. Grace is good.

I am not sure if the authors of the books that I posted are morons or dishonest, but what I do know is that they wrote the book and apparently a publisher felt that the books were good enough to publish.

But to call someone who wrote such a book a "con artist, a moron, or dishonest" simply because you do not agree with it, well, sounds like a defamatory statement that conveys an unjustly unfavorable impression of a person, or lible...

Publishers don't publish books because they're "good" or legitimate or anything of the sort. They publish them for one reason alone: they will sell.

So if they happen to appeal to enough gullible morons out there in today's world, and there are plenty, then they'll publish it.

It's still not a terribly ineffective system as far as gambling goes. You're taking a chance of losing only 0.25% of the time. What are the odds of geting into a car wreck on your way home from work? (<---rhetorical)

First off, you'll hit the table limit before you get to that point, so you'll bottom out more often than .25% of the time.

But there will be times when you'll win, but you can't win big by betting $5 at a time on either red or black. The only way to win big that way is to play long enough. But if you play long enough, the chances increase that you're going to run into one of those bad streaks, hit the table limit as you try to double your bets, and take a HUGE loss.

There's no way to beat the system over the long haul. It's mathematically impossible.

It doesn't mean playing roulette isn't fun. But if you play, you should realize the odds are stacked against you.

Back to religion.
So what would you do if you God is real, and he is upset at you for spreading word that He doesn't exist?
That is not to say that it will happen, but what if.

Good idea. Stick to religion. It's something you actually know something about.

Why are we assuming that God would be mad at spreading the word that He doesn't exist? If I tell my friend that God doesn't exist, you think God's going to be mad at me? Why?

First off, you'll hit the table limit before you get to that point, so you'll bottom out more often than .25% of the time.

But there will be times when you'll win, but you can't win big by betting $5 at a time on either red or black. The only way to win big that way is to play long enough. But if you play long enough, the chances increase that you're going to run into one of those bad streaks, hit the table limit as you try to double your bets, and take a HUGE loss.

There's no way to beat the system over the long haul. It's mathematically impossible.

It doesn't mean playing roulette isn't fun. But if you play, you should realize the odds are stacked against you.

And that should be the only reason to gamble. I think people who gamble to strike it rich are exactly the people that "Vegas" thrives off of. Gambling can be fun recreation as long as you're conscious of how easy it is to get caught up in the illusion of easy money.

And that should be the only reason to gamble. I think people who gamble to strike it rich are exactly the people that "Vegas" thrives off of. Gambling can be fun recreation as long as you're conscious of how easy it is to get caught up in the illusion of easy money.

Truer words have never been spoken.