Brandon Lloyd is not a bust!

And next year after free agency ,we will be sitting hear thinking Doc's and these other deals where not that expensive after all.

I disagree, that is unless the salary cap doubles overnight.

(SCENE: B. Llyod has just missed a potential touchdown catch against the Saints)

Al Saunders: Looks like you lost it in the lights

Lloyd: What?

Al Saunders: Looks like you lost it in the lights

Lloyd: I didnt' F*$*#G loose it, go talk to your F$*#(G Quarterback.

NOTE: this script is paraphrased

This is the type of shit Lloyd tries to pull with his crappy attitude. Saunders tried to give him a don't worry about it pat on the back when the play was clearly his fault and Lloyd tries to blame it on the Campbell.

(SCENE: B. Llyod has just missed a potential touchdown catch against the Saints)

Al Saunders: Looks like you lost it in the lights

Lloyd: What?

Al Saunders: Looks like you lost it in the lights

Lloyd: I didnt' F*$*#G loose it, go talk to your F$*#(G Quarterback.

NOTE: this script is paraphrased

This is the type of shit Lloyd tries to pull with his crappy attitude. Saunders tried to give him a don't worry about it pat on the back when the play was clearly his fault and Lloyd tries to blame it on the Campbell.

Wow thats not good.
where did you get this info?

Wow thats not good.
where did you get this info?

washingtonpost.com and post game. he also had sideline spats with randle-el. this isn't new info.

(SCENE: B. Llyod has just missed a potential touchdown catch against the Saints)

Al Saunders: Looks like you lost it in the lights

Lloyd: What?

Al Saunders: Looks like you lost it in the lights

Lloyd: I didnt' F*$*#G loose it, go talk to your F$*#(G Quarterback.

NOTE: this script is paraphrased

This is the type of shit Lloyd tries to pull with his crappy attitude. Saunders tried to give him a don't worry about it pat on the back when the play was clearly his fault and Lloyd tries to blame it on the Campbell.

I remember that game .That was Lloyds fault all the way. Nobybody's perfect
I'll cut him some slack for not making the catch , But own up to your mistakes.

I remember that game .That was Lloyds fault all the way. Nobybody's perfect
I'll cut him some slack for not making the catch , But own up to your mistakes.

Apparently Lloyd doesn't. As stated by ThatGuy, this is not new info. Perhaps this is why people were skeptical about your "not a bust" opinion from the beginning. Maybe next time before you go jumping down people's throats for disagreeing with you, you'll cut em some slack before calling them out.

Apparently Lloyd doesn't. As stated by ThatGuy, this is not new info. Perhaps this is why people were skeptical about your "not a bust" opinion from the beginning. Maybe next time before you go jumping down people's throats for disagreeing with you, you'll cut em some slack before calling them out.

Hey -When I jumped down peoples throats
The only rebuttal I was getting was along the lines of
"one catch doesn't define a career" witch was not implied in my message anyway.
Can anyone see how that was frustrating?

I apologize for offending anyone
I was trying to raise the level of this debate.

As for the topic it got peoples attention and turned out to have some pretty good arguments on each side.

Apparently Lloyd doesn't. As stated by ThatGuy, this is not new info. Perhaps this is why people were skeptical about your "not a bust" opinion from the beginning. Maybe next time before you go jumping down people's throats for disagreeing with you, you'll cut em some slack before calling them out.

When I jumped down peoples throats
The only rebuttal I was getting was along the lines of
"one catch doesn't define a career" witch was not implied in my message anyway.
Can anyone see how that was frustrating?

I apologize for offending anyone
I was trying to raise the level of this debate.

As for the topic it got peoples attention and turned out to have some pretty good arguments on each side.

When I jumped down peoples throats
The only rebuttal I was getting was along the lines of
"one catch doesn't define a career" witch was not implied in my message anyway.
Can anyone see how that was frustrating?

I apologize for offending anyone
I was trying to raise the level of this debate.

As for the topic it got peoples attention and turned out to have some pretty good arguments on each side.

No problem. Just as a suggestion though, before venting frustration by jumping down people's throats, try to make sure that they understand your point and vice versa. That Guy's take on your original statement was certainly reasonable given prior debate by the board ON THIS VERY SUBJECT. In general, people here are pretty open to discussion and the type of misunderstanding involved here can be resolved without the need to get bent out of shape.

Unless, of course, offiss is involved in the debate. : )

When I jumped down peoples throats
The only rebuttal I was getting was along the lines of
"one catch doesn't define a career" witch was not implied in my message anyway.
Can anyone see how that was frustrating?

I apologize for offending anyone
I was trying to raise the level of this debate.

As for the topic it got peoples attention and turned out to have some pretty good arguments on each side.

that's a lie and compeltely untrue. you called me out for "not having any insight" (which you have yet to provide), and YOU made up that retarded argument so YOU could use it as a straw man. (i said one good catch doesn't cancel the fact that he goes mia for entire games at a time. if you can't see how warped you're making that, you really need to go back and try to read more carefully or get some help). it's total BS that you keep trying to put those words in my mouth when i NEVER SAID ANYTHING REMOTELY LIKE THAT. then you only use that one BS argument which YOU MADE UP AND EXISTS ONLY IN YOUR HEAD and ignore all the other points that were brought up.

that's doing nothing to raise the level of debate... in fact, you've pretty much refused to debate anything since i have yet to see a response to any of the points that have been mentioned or anything insightful that could possibly prove he's not a bust. if anything, you've been actively trying to avoid or lower the level of debate. oh yeah, and then you play off some stupid victim routine.

That's frustrating.

*worst stats for any starting WR in the super bowl era - no response.

*his ypc is NOT NEAR the best in the league like you said - no response.

*he's made multiple spats on the sidelines, a bad history in SF, and andre carter (when asked about lloyd's character) basically said "no comment" - you're only response is to cut him some slack, even though he's shown no improvement and refuses to accept blame for anything that goes wrong (and even said he sees absolutely no reason to ever change that kind of attitude).

*he's never had a 1,000 yard season, and the 49ers definitely didn't think he was worth keeping around at the vet min - no response

*goes mia for games - your response - what's backing that up - my response - look at the stats and box scores, it's pretty obvious, or watch the games.
"Like you went to a game and watched him and never got separation."
- like you went and saw him open by 20 yards every play.
that's another bullshit strawman and an amazing appearance of the "i'm right cause i said so" argument yet again. but that's useless cause there's no proof at all for what your saying or anything that rebuffs those stats. moss and cooley and even el produced just fine, so what?, was lloyd the victim of a vast right wing conspiracy? it makes no sense - he was even on the field for more snaps than el as a WR.

*plenty of good WRs put up stats with crappy QBs (in response to your "well, it's campbell's fault for not being peyton argument). check joe horn, check randy moss, check boldin and fitzgerald, check torry holt with a 3rd string QB, and i'm sure there's tons of other examples. - no response

if you're going "to raise the level of debate" how about responding to criticism of your position instead of shadowboxing strawmen and playing the victim?

i'm still waiting for that "insightful" reply.