Don Imus

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saden1
04-12-2007, 12:17 AM
So when Carlos Mencia did the Racial Olympics he wasn't pointing out specific Individuals? Then who was competing?

Are you talking about this (http://www.ifilm.com/video/2805809/show/17668)? If not, you need to provide a link.

hooskins
04-12-2007, 12:22 AM
The main difference between Imus and rappers/comedians is that he called a specific group of women nappy head hos. While not acceptable rappers don't direct insults like that at specific people.

As for comedians they are in the business of satire. Brian (the dog) in Family Guy constantly makes racist comments about black people but no one rides Seth McFarland about it and they shouldn't. What about South Park? Man, they are out there and funny at that. It's making fun of stereotypes and it hurts no one in particular, well, maybe Tom Cruise and Scientologists.

Imus on the other hand said really hurtful things. You may not see it that way but a lot of people do. If Imus' sponsors pull out on him, well, that's his fault. Weather just or not. Would even be allowed on the air again if he said some racist stuff about Jews?

People should be accountable for shit that comes out of their mouths and Imus is getting his. I doubt we have seen the last of him. He'll probably be back after things have cooled down.

But what are we achieving as a community by crucifying him? That is what the media and the majority of people are trying to do in this thread. There is a difference from setting an example or just not growing as a society.

It is good to discuss the issue, I mean Imus has some racist issues, but if he does alot of America must too. Instead of making him the scapegoat let's try to discuss why people act like this and try to grow as a society.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
04-12-2007, 12:29 AM
Rob has an interesting point. I guess it's true that a lot of minority comedians make fun of other minority groups or white people and society doesn't bat an eye. But, even if it is hypocritical, it's hard to feel real bad for Imus. The guy is a millionaire who got to talk for living about sports, etc.

saden1
04-12-2007, 12:35 AM
But what are we achieving as a community by crucifying him? That is what the media and the majority of people are trying to do in this thread. There is a difference from setting an example or just not growing as a society.

It is good to discuss the issue, I mean Imus has some racist issues, but if he does alot of America must too. Instead of making him the scapegoat let's try to discuss why people act like this and try to grow as a society.

To be honest, I don't want to see him fired but I can definitely see advertisers pulling their ads from his show. Like someone else said, it's just business.

I think the main pontificator of this whole thing is the media. They are running wild with it instead of talking about more important issues. In my mind this is just the next best thing after the Anna Nicole Smith saga.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
04-12-2007, 12:39 AM
I think the main pontificator of this whole thing is the media. They are running wild with it instead of talking about more important issues. In my mind this is just the next best thing after the Anna Nicole Smith saga.

Seriously, there is a war in Iraq and Afghanistan, a possible recession on the horizon, and tons of political scandals, but somehow Imus, lacrosse players, and Anna Nicole seem to be the lead stories. But, then again, those are the stories that I keep making posts about.

saden1
04-12-2007, 12:40 AM
My uncle made a pretty good point to me tonight. He said "You know, if someone like Chris Rock said these comments, we wouldn't ever here about it"...

I kind of agree with him.

Granted, I've despised Imus for quite a long time, but I think my uncle had a point.

IMO I think the only reason he got yanked was because the advertisers pulled out. It was merely a business decision, so don't give MS NBC any credit for being "noble" or anything to that cause.

Imus is and always has been a bastard... so I don't think that's any news.

I never heard Christ Rocks say "Long nosed Jewish bitch" or "San Fag-cisco home of the fags."

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
04-12-2007, 12:42 AM
I never heard Christ Rocks say "Long nosed Jewish bitch" or "San Fag-cisco home of the fags."

Is Christ Rocks Jesus' stand-up comedian brother? Just kidding, but did Imus say those things?

KLHJ2
04-12-2007, 12:44 AM
Are you talking about this (http://www.ifilm.com/video/2805809/show/17668)? If not, you need to provide a link.

Yes, that was it. I guess now your argument will be that those guys volunteered to be on that show. And my rebuttle will be that the Rutgers team volunteered to play for that team, but not to be badgered by Imus so I can see your point. But that is neither here nor there. I already stated that the venue that Imus made those comments in is wrong and the circumstances were wrong. I am merely tring to point out that there is a double standard on crossing the line. If a white commedian were to get up on stage and start making jokes about another ethnicity, the majority of people would boo him off the stage, and he would be the topic of racial discussion for a month. But when roles are reversed, everybody laughs, even the people getting clowned on. Why are things that way?

hooskins
04-12-2007, 01:11 AM
Yes, that was it. I guess now your argument will be that those guys volunteered to be on that show. And my rebuttle will be that the Rutgers team volunteered to play for that team, but not to be badgered by Imus so I can see your point. But that is neither here nor there. I already stated that the venue that Imus made those comments in is wrong and the circumstances were wrong. I am merely tring to point out that there is a double standard on crossing the line. If a white commedian were to get up on stage and start making jokes about another ethnicity, the majority of people would boo him off the stage, and he would be the topic of racial discussion for a month. But when roles are reversed, everybody laughs, even the people getting clowned on. Why are things that way?

Because once upon a time that same white man might have lynched a black man, and his white buddies would have thought that is funny. Because of years of injustice there is a sort of system in this world in which it is ok for blacks to insult whites. I mean I don't agree with it or advocate either side, it is what it is. Personally I think either people should be able to say things that are stereotypical for jokes, or both nobody should.

I also think alot of it arises from confusion. I doubt Imus or our good friend Krammer interacted with any black people at all. I mean Richards freaking called blacks "afro-americans", who the hell says that anymore?

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace
04-12-2007, 01:19 AM
Because once upon a time that same white man might have lynched a black man, and his white buddies would have thought that is funny. Because of years of injustice there is a sort of system in this world in which it is ok for blacks to insult whites. I mean I don't agree with it or advocate either side, it is what it is. Personally I think either people should be able to say things that are stereotypical for jokes, or both nobody should.

I also think alot of it arises from confusion. I doubt Imus or our good friend Krammer interacted with any black people at all. I mean Richards freaking called blacks "afro-americans", who the hell says that anymore?

My grandpa...and it makes me chuckle every time...he also immediately follows any comment involving a black person..."not that I'm a racist or anything"

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