firstdown
09-11-2007, 03:34 PM
A couple of guys I know that were at the game said that one of Campbell's interceptions was B. Lloyds fault. He never went up for the ball or something. I'm not saying it was, just what heard.
OK 12th it sounds like you want to start a thread to bash Lloyd. You started the thread hinting at what he has done wrong then you have the 2nd post throwing it out that he may have caused the 2nd interception of JC.
BleedBurgundy
09-11-2007, 03:35 PM
Yeah, TMC, for the sake of arguement I'm willing to give a pass on last year. That said, if you look at last Sunday... where was our ocho cinco? I'm not going to pull the stats but I remember ONE catch for 5 yards. Like Matty said, that int was every bit as much BL's fault as Campbell's. The money doesn't even bother me in this scenario. I'm more pissed that we may have missed out on opportunities to look at other wr's because we targeted him.
Chief X_Phackter
09-11-2007, 03:38 PM
Too hard? Perhaps. I think the jury is still out on this guy.
It is still too early to determine what sort of impact he will have on our offense THIS year. You could compare his contributions to Cooley's so far this year and I don't think that is a fair assessment. We all know Cooley will contribute. I say give him a few more weeks and see what happens, then we'll be able to tell if we're being "Too Hard" on Brandon Lloyd.
firstdown
09-11-2007, 03:38 PM
OK do we have film of that play?
wilsowilso
09-11-2007, 03:39 PM
We don't get a chance to see the behind the scenes stuff. I would venture to guess it's not like Lloyd came back this year and offered to play special teams and do whatever it takes to rebuild his image into a team player. He doesn't produce period. If he was not a cap killer they obviously would cut him.... any team would. If his strength is stretching a defense why are his two signature deep plays dropping a bomb from Campbell on his first NFL pass and a half assed effort against Miami. Heart of glass player it would seem. Very sad because we needed another deep threat to really throw teams off balance.
12thMan
09-11-2007, 03:44 PM
OK 12th it sounds like you want to start a thread to bash Lloyd. You started the thread hinting at what he has done wrong then you have the 2nd post throwing it out that he may have caused the 2nd interception of JC.
Not really trying to bash Lloyd. I did point out how he came into camp in good condition with a good attitude. And how JC is still learning the system too.
I'd like to see the cat succeed and stick around as a Redskin. I'm just wondering if this is all about him and not the team. On the int., I'm simply repeating what I heard from two different people who attended the game.
When I say are "we" being hard on B. Lloyd?, I'm definitely including myself in that crowd.
70Chip
09-11-2007, 03:45 PM
From what I've heard, what has frustrated the coaches most is that he has little to no grasp of the playbook. Apparently, and I don't know how you can tell unless you know the playbook nor how much it really matters if he indeed is getting open, he improvises a lot of his routes because he doesn't know which are the right routes to run.
That's disappointing. The Redskins system is as easy as it could be. There are options within the numbering system which require being on the same page with the QB but he's had more than enough time to figure that out. I have noticed that when I run "LLoyd Option" on Madden it seldom works out very well. I wish Madden Lloyd were smarter than real Lloyd.
TheMalcolmConnection
09-11-2007, 03:45 PM
From what I've heard, what has frustrated the coaches most is that he has little to no grasp of the playbook. Apparently, and I don't know how you can tell unless you know the playbook nor how much it really matters if he indeed is getting open, he improvises a lot of his routes because he doesn't know which are the right routes to run.
That would make a whole LOT of sense considering it wasn't for lack of catching the ball last year. I just remember him not getting a lot of looks and that would make a lot of sense.
redsk1
09-11-2007, 03:47 PM
I've heard both.
IMO, he cut in front of the DB to try to make the catch. I didn't see any half hearted approach. He came up a little short and the DB made a good catch. Now, i didn't see the replay and I didn't see him after the INT was made. If i'm wrong tell me.
When i first saw it nothing told me that he wasn't trying.
12thMan
09-11-2007, 03:50 PM
IMO, he cut in front of the DB to try to make the catch. I didn't see any half hearted approach. He came up a little short and the DB made a good catch. Now, i didn't see the replay and I didn't see him after the INT was made. If i'm wrong tell me.
When i first saw it nothing told me that he wasn't trying.
I'm not here to dispute that. You saw what you saw.