GTripp0012
10-29-2007, 03:22 PM
As far as the playcalling, you can't hide behind it as the reason for our offensive failures. BUT we don't throw often enough on first down, and we tried two more of these asinine "timing" plays on third down, and completed neither.
Regardless of the fact that I don't believe that he's to blame for losing, I am losing respect for Saunders quickly. These plays are stupid and really put our guys in tough situations.
GTripp0012
10-29-2007, 03:23 PM
Yes randy moss is lazy, lloyd is lazy, thrash fights his guts out. But you cannot ignore talent and playmaking ability. Lloyd should be in on third down passing situations to offer a threat. Thrash is a special teamer and decent blocker.
Sorry for trashing his name. I got heated on the play when we tried to go deep to him.Don't confuse Brandon Lloyd for a threat. Receiving threats have to catch the ball.
The Zimmermans
10-29-2007, 03:24 PM
He caught the ball in San Fran
JWsleep
10-29-2007, 03:28 PM
Our offense is "out of synch" as they say. Timing plays are good things--see Wes Walker and the Pats 3step drop for example. We are not executing anywhere right now. The deep ball either gets a sack or JC misses folks (at least this week--though it's tough to measure things on that game). The run game is nonexistent--absolutely crucial for what we do, and it's not just Gibbs-football. Saunders had LJ and Priest Holmes--it wasn't all just bombs away, which people always forget. And there have been drops, misreads, and overthrows to boot.
Still, I'm (call me crazy) optimistic: against the Jets, you'll see lots of good things on O. And people will say: hey, they finally opened the playbook! We're going to the superbowl! And it won't be true: we'll just be better able to execute against the Jets than against the Pats. And then we'll get some rhythm and confidence, our playcalling will actually fool people having to shut down something else, and we'll get it on.
Chief X_Phackter
10-29-2007, 03:28 PM
I agree, we must win. Luckily the Jets blow, so it'll be an easy win.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Jets hand it to us this weekend. We have zero offense, our defense is beat up and tired, a lot of key guys are banged up pretty good, and we are playing on the road.
I keep waiting for this team to turn the corner, but the offensive futility combined with the myriad of injuries will be hard to overcome this year.
GTripp0012
10-29-2007, 03:30 PM
He caught the ball in San FranNo (http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr2005.php) he (http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr2004.php) didn't (http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr2003.php).
Catch %'s for Lloyd:
2005-44%
2004-48%
2003-47%
Randle El's this year: 70%
Lloyd's last year: 41%
He's always been bad.
SmootSmack
10-29-2007, 03:31 PM
I was ambivalent about going after him this past summer, but I think we need to start getting the ball to Keenan McCardell more. He's shown he can still get open and get open deep.
And hopefully not only will we try to rattle Clemens, but also their rookie CB Darelle Revis.
The Zimmermans
10-29-2007, 03:32 PM
deep passes to lloyd - a lot
deep passes to randle el - none
Lloyd was catching the ball downfield
GTripp0012
10-29-2007, 03:32 PM
This year, Brandon Lloyd has a robust 14% catch.
GTripp0012
10-29-2007, 03:33 PM
deep passes to lloyd - a lot
deep passes to randle el - none
Lloyd was catching the ball downfieldNo. No he wasn't.
Lloyd is terrible.