Time for the Jets

deep passes to lloyd - a lot
deep passes to randle el - none

Lloyd was catching the ball downfield

What????

I was ambivalent about going after him this past summer, but I think we need to start getting the ball to Keenan McCardell more. He's shown he can still get open and get open deep.

And hopefully not only will we try to rattle Clemens, but also their rookie CB Darelle Revis.I think McCardell can still get it done.

McCardell needs to see the field. Maybe not in place of Moss, but the thrid receiver at very least.

Your defending a bad offense that is one-dimensional. I wanted them to let JC throw downfield on first and second down against the Jets. And you argued and said I didnt watch the game???? We have no WR TD's, I'm sorry you love Al saunders....but he's 9-14

With 80% of the offensive line out or playing hurt, I actually think this team is zero dimensional, but I also respect the way the coaches were trying to attack the Patriots. They were trying to keep the Pats offense off the field with sustained drives. Going for quick strikes against that team is just stupid. Their offensive execution is far better than Washington's and they basically score whenever they feel like it.

The gameplan itself isn't the problem, it's the execution, and the execution is being effected by a ridiculous number of injuries. How the hell can the finger be pointed at Al Saunders or even Coach Gibbs for that matter, when the entire offense outside of Cooley, Samuels, and Campbell have missed time, or been playing banged up?

No. No he wasn't.

Lloyd is terrible.

well we are paying him a lot of money....so we better find a way to work him in. Or McCardell. Both of them should be able to go up and get the ball if jason puts some air under it. Stop hating on him if we never even throw to him.

WE will agree to disagree

With 80% of the offensive line out or playing hurt, I actually think this team is zero dimensional, but I also respect the way the coaches were trying to attack the Patriots. They were trying to keep the Pats offense off the field with sustained drives. Going for quick strikes against that team is just stupid. Their offensive execution is far better than Washington's and they basically score whenever they feel like it.

The gameplan itself isn't the problem, it's the execution, and the execution is being effected by a ridiculous number of injuries. How the hell can the finger be pointed at Al Saunders or even Coach Gibbs for that matter, when the entire offense outside of Cooley, Samuels, and Campbell have missed time, or been playing banged up?

Yes, and that gameplan killed the morale of the team and fans cause it resulted in ZERO actual points. What is Campbell supposed to think when we score 7 points in garbage time. ZERO success on offense due to the conservatism. Nothing for JC to build on. Yes, the execution sucks, but that is because the patriots knew what we were gonna call on each separate down.

With 80% of the offensive line out or playing hurt, I actually think this team is zero dimensional, but I also respect the way the coaches were trying to attack the Patriots. They were trying to keep the Pats offense off the field with sustained drives. Going for quick strikes against that team is just stupid. Their offensive execution is far better than Washington's and they basically score whenever they feel like it.

The gameplan itself isn't the problem, it's the execution, and the execution is being effected by a ridiculous number of injuries. How the hell can the finger be pointed at Al Saunders or even Coach Gibbs for that matter, when the entire offense outside of Cooley, Samuels, and Campbell have missed time, or been playing banged up?

I think it's probably because of what Gibbs and Saunders have done with virtual nobodies. Gibbs led a team of scabs led by a prison inmate at QB to a 3-0 record. Saunders had the best offenses in the NFL with Marc Boeritger and Eddie Kennison as his top two wide receivers.

I don't agree with the sentiment that all the blame should be laid at the feet of Saunders and Gibbs. But I imagine this is what upsets some people. And there are others who just like to be upset.

52-7 makes me a little upset....and I'm not enjoying it

well we are paying him a lot of money....so we better find a way to work him in. Or McCardell. Both of them should be able to go up and get the ball if jason puts some air under it. Stop hating on him if we never even throw to him.

WE will agree to disagreeActually, I can agree with this to an extent.

We do need to keep him on the roster, and though I believe we would be better off if he was one of our inactives, as long as he's outplaying Caldwell, we can't just not use him ever.

He's just not a very good player. He's capable of basic receiver function, but that's about it. We are paying 5 mil a year to him for spectacular catches, and that's just stupid on our part.

Yes, and that gameplan killed the morale of the team and fans cause it resulted in ZERO actual points. What is Campbell supposed to think when we score 7 points in garbage time. ZERO success on offense due to the conservatism. Nothing for JC to build on. Yes, the execution sucks, but that is because the patriots knew what we were gonna call on each separate down.It's not possible to "know" what we are going to call. If teams guessed like that, we would have beaten them bad about half the time.

My only problem with the calls is when they are called as plays that just won't work. Like 3rd and three out routes into a non existant window on the sideline.

I have dogged him a lot too, I'm just starting to get very worried that we don't have any possession receivers that can go up and get the ball on third down or in the endzone...I feel like lloyd and mccardell are the closest things.

It was obviously a mistake to sign him for that money, and hopefully snyder will learn from that and hire a GM at some point. Imagine what we coulda done with that money.