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SmootSmack 11-02-2007, 12:08 PM Slippery slope here. Andy Reid is not the one directly linked to the criminal activity, whereas Vick was.
The control of his own children argument doesn't hold water, as his children are grown, and presumably on their own. As they are adults, they should be seen as their own men, and not Andy's sons.
I don't see Jeffrey Lurie doing anything but supporting his guy. Reid's in his 8th season as Eagles Head Coach, and they've had a good run under Reid. I don't see Lurie rocking the boat.
But when Goodell made those comments to Vick he didn't know Vick was directly involved. Still I see your points overall
I was actually curious if from a legal standpoint the NFL has any ground to stand on to suspend Reid? SGG, I'm looking in your direction.
I do feel bad for Reid. I think my bigger concern is not his two oldest sons his three other children (all under age 18). He can't let them slip away too. Not being a parent myself I don't know what's the right way to handle this quite honestly.
Southpaw 11-02-2007, 12:11 PM The only reason for Reid to step down at this point is to try to keep his family business out of the spotlight. One of his douchebag kids is 24. What can he honestly do? It can be said that his kids turning out like they did is partially his fault, but again, they're adults now. It's beyond his responsibility, and he shouldn't have to give up his livelyhood because of them.
They are grown men who happen be the sons of a football coach. I hope they get treated like every other junkie on the streets.
724Skinsfan 11-02-2007, 12:34 PM I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid step down after the season. He'll be welcomed back into the NFL easily whenever he decides to return so it's not like he's giving up his dream job forever.
The whole issue about the NFL suspending doesn't make much sense to me. He's not guilty of any criminal behavior nor advocating criminal behavior. I might consider otherwise if there was a taped phone conversation in which Reid is saying "Sold anymore drugs to kids? Great! That's my boy. That's how you make your money. Keep it up. Just like I taught you."
Monkeydad 11-02-2007, 12:37 PM Except a divorce isn't criminal activity
Yeah, if the NFL didn't care about Belichick taking part in an adultery with a married woman who later divorced her husband over it, they won't care about Reid simply getting a mutually agreed-upon divorce with his own wife.
Monkeydad 11-02-2007, 12:40 PM Hell no. That fat loser should stay there and watch the rest of his career go down the toilet. It's so funny...three years ago dumbass jeff lurie said the eagels were the "gold standard" as to how you build a team. They sucked then, and they still suck.
Gee thanks. You provided the one post that the Eagles' boards will start riots over and accusing all Redskins fans of being jerks. I bet they'll even claim Sammy Baugh himself said this.
ANYWAYS...I believe he will and SHOULD step down and get his personal life in order. It's getting to the point where it has to be distracting him and possibly even his whole team. I hate the Eagles as a team, but personally, he needs to do what he needs to do and I don't wish his situation(s) on anyone.
skinsguy 11-02-2007, 12:47 PM If his personal life is affecting his professional life, then it doe become a problem. The same can be said for any job, whether if you are a policeman, lawyer, or football coach.
Personally, I have always liked Andy Reid. I have always hated the Eagles team, but I do respect Reid as a coach. I even have respect for McNabb. But, if this stuff truly is affecting his job (and I'd say it is,) then the best thing for him to do is either take another leave of absence or step down as head coach.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-02-2007, 12:58 PM I was actually curious if from a legal standpoint the NFL has any ground to stand on to suspend Reid? SGG, I'm looking in your direction.
Unfortunately, I don't know. The CBA only governs relations between the league and the players. The NFL has Bylaws that, presumably, govern the Commissioner's authority and state when the Commissioner may or may not suspend coaches. Unfortunately, the NFL's Bylaws are not available through google, yahoo, etc. I would suspect that the Bylaws grant the Commissioner broad authority to suspend coaches for any conduct that violates league rules or "that is otherwise detrimental to the league."
As a matter of general employment law, I know of no laws precluding the league or Lurie from suspending Reid.
TheBigD 11-02-2007, 01:04 PM As a matter of general employment law, I know of no laws precluding the league or Lurie from suspending Reid.
I doubt they will, the NFL PA (not sure if that covers coaches as well) would not let that happen to Reid. They usually don't suspend palyers unless they really mess up big time.
SmootSmack 11-02-2007, 01:09 PM Unfortunately, I don't know. The CBA only governs relations between the league and the players. The NFL has Bylaws that, presumably, govern the Commissioner's authority and state when the Commissioner may or may not suspend coaches. Unfortunately, the NFL's Bylaws are not available through google, yahoo, etc. I would suspect that the Bylaws grant the Commissioner broad authority to suspend coaches for any conduct that violates league rules or "that is otherwise detrimental to the league."
As a matter of general employment law, I know of no laws precluding the league or Lurie from suspending Reid.
But what about this: Persons Covered by Policy
The following persons ("Covered Persons") shall be considered subject to this Policy: (i) all players under contract; (ii) all full-time employees of the National Football League, its Member Clubs and related entities;
NFL Players Association - Rules and Regulations - Conduct Policy (http://www.nflpa.org/RulesAndRegs/ConductPolicy.aspx)
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