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Skins fan 44 11-02-2007, 06:15 PM He has ignored the problem up until this summer why should he step down now? He cant not say that he did not know that his kids were doing bad things before they got arrested. If he did not know he needs to know to become a better parent and be more involved in his kids life. And he can't not use the excuse of I was too busy to know what is going on due to my schedule. Family comes way before football. I know they are grown up and all and are responsible for there own actions but for him to not have a clue what they are doing is beyond belief.
offiss 11-02-2007, 06:39 PM You either control your kids or you don't, sounds more like to me that Reid doesn't have the ability to teach his kids right from wrong, or insist upon it, so I don't know how quiting his job would help the matter, sounds like he needs money more than ever if he plans to help with the legal bills and so forth. Men all over the world go to work and stay away from their families and still manage to raise their children properly, one has nothing to do with the other. Reid needs to look himself in the mirror and figure out what he's doing wrong, because I believe I heard he has 3 more children he doesn't need them following their brothers down the same path.
dmek25 11-02-2007, 06:53 PM You either control your kids or you don't, sounds more like to me that Reid doesn't have the ability to teach his kids right from wrong, or insist upon it, so I don't know how quiting his job would help the matter, sounds like he needs money more than ever if he plans to help with the legal bills and so forth. Men all over the world go to work and stay away from their families and still manage to raise their children properly, one has nothing to do with the other. Reid needs to look himself in the mirror and figure out what he's doing wrong, because I believe I heard he has 3 more children he doesn't need them following their brothers down the same path.
offiss, do you have kids? the reason i ask is that I'm a firm believer of the thought that you can be the best parent in the world, and you kids can still end up in trouble. to me, this statement is ridiculous
DEVIL'S OWN 11-02-2007, 07:48 PM Who gives a shit........
jgalecpa 11-02-2007, 10:00 PM You either control your kids or you don't, sounds more like to me that Reid doesn't have the ability to teach his kids right from wrong, or insist upon it, so I don't know how quiting his job would help the matter, sounds like he needs money more than ever if he plans to help with the legal bills and so forth. Men all over the world go to work and stay away from their families and still manage to raise their children properly, one has nothing to do with the other. Reid needs to look himself in the mirror and figure out what he's doing wrong, because I believe I heard he has 3 more children he doesn't need them following their brothers down the same path.
The thing is, after a point, your kids are going to do what they are going to do. Some kids listen and other kids don't. Turns out you can't actuallty control them, or anyone else but yourself.
People deal with things different ways. Maybe the best way for Coach to do it is to Coach.
That is his choice, and his decision. We have no idea what went on in that house.
Like my daughter says: "Never judge a man until you have walked a mile in their shoes. Then you are a mile away and they have no shoes."
My 1.5 cents.
djnemo65 11-02-2007, 10:35 PM You either control your kids or you don't, sounds more like to me that Reid doesn't have the ability to teach his kids right from wrong, or insist upon it, so I don't know how quiting his job would help the matter, sounds like he needs money more than ever if he plans to help with the legal bills and so forth. Men all over the world go to work and stay away from their families and still manage to raise their children properly, one has nothing to do with the other. Reid needs to look himself in the mirror and figure out what he's doing wrong, because I believe I heard he has 3 more children he doesn't need them following their brothers down the same path.
I think some of you guys are pretty insensitive to what he is going through. Offiss, men all over the world remove themselves from their kids lives and the kids grow up to be congressmen. Others parent as best they can and the kids still end up on drugs. Numerous studies have indicated that peer groups influence children's behavior much more then parenting.
To condemn Reid as a parent without, I am assuming here Offiss, any real knowledge of what has gone on in his house, is kind of arrogant and kind of insensitive.
offiss 11-03-2007, 05:27 AM offiss, do you have kids? the reason i ask is that I'm a firm believer of the thought that you can be the best parent in the world, and you kids can still end up in trouble. to me, this statement is ridiculous
I read a few of your posts on this subject dmek and can see your all over the place, first Reid should go to work, then he should resign, then being the best parent in the world has nothing to do with kids who go astray, so please make up your mind, if he's the best parent in the world right now, how would quiting his job serve any purpose as to making him even better than he already is? Or these kids are inherently bad and nothing he can do will stop them? Either argument I can't see why he would need to quit his job, he either is a lousy parent and quiting isn't going to make him better it will just keep him around the house more not knowing how to teach and discipline his kids, or he can quit and continue to be the best parent and be around the house more only to continue to watch these kids who as you have stated may be inherently bad continue to get into trouble. Either way quiting your job is NOT the solution.
And to answer you first question, no I do not have children.
offiss 11-03-2007, 05:57 AM I think some of you guys are pretty insensitive to what he is going through. Offiss, men all over the world remove themselves from their kids lives and the kids grow up to be congressmen. Others parent as best they can and the kids still end up on drugs. Numerous studies have indicated that peer groups influence children's behavior much more then parenting.
To condemn Reid as a parent without, I am assuming here Offiss, any real knowledge of what has gone on in his house, is kind of arrogant and kind of insensitive.
Assume all you want, the fact is the title of this thread is should he step down, so I am not condemning him the thread itself is saying that in the title, why should he step down? The thread is asking people to judge the situation, maybe it should have been a simple yes or no pole? The fact is he is either the problem, or he isn't, either way explain how quiting will help? I am assuming you have a problem with everyone who says he should step down on this one because asking him to step down is essentially saying he ain't getting the job done as a parent and should spend more time trying to get it right wouldn't you say?
Numerous studies have indicated that peer groups influence children's behavior much more then parenting.
Yea yea, we have heard it all, there's plenty of studies that prove other wise, teach your kids from an early age how to live, and act, and when they get older they wont part far from it, a parent BY Far has the greatest influence on his child's life, peer groups have more influence on a child when the lack of parental guidance does not provide them with a proper foundation and structure in their lives, so spare me all the hippie liberal nonsense designed to take responsibility away from every one so we can all sleep at night. Please. The amount of time spent with your children isn't as important as the quality of that time that is spent with them!
dmek25 11-03-2007, 07:52 AM what i said was he could be the best parent in the world, but once kids get to a certain age, their minds start making their own decisions. i don't know Reid's home situation, but to me, the problems seem to be more with Mrs Reid. she doesn't work, she knows the boys have on going drug issues. but when the police show up, there are drugs everywhere. with my daughter, both my wife and me were constantly looking thru her things. and her room. everyone has to work, and millions go to work every day with family issues. it all depends if you can do your job, and not let these issues interfere with it. that's a decision Reid has to make. but since he still has young ones, he might want to take a leave, and get on the same page with his wife. but its strictly up to him
dmek25 11-03-2007, 08:01 AM Yea yea, we have heard it all, there's plenty of studies that prove other wise, teach your kids from an early age how to live, and act, and when they get older they wont part far from it, a parent BY Far has the greatest influence on his child's life, peer groups have more influence on a child when the lack of parental guidance does not provide them with a proper foundation and structure in their lives, so spare me all the hippie liberal nonsense designed to take responsibility away from every one so we can all sleep at night. Please. The amount of time spent with your children isn't as important as the quality of that time that is spent with them!
this is spoken from stupidity. both me and my wife have done all the right things with both my daughter, and my son. those 2 couldn't be more different. my boy does all the right things. and is basically a joy to be around. my daughter does whatever is on HER agenda, and screw everyone else. basically a royal bit**. they were both raised the same. and both me and my wife were heavily involved in their child hoods. we have talked to all the so called experts about my daughter, and none of them can agree. it has nothing to do with hippie liberal nonsense. it has everything to do with us wanting our daughter to be a healthy, productive member of society. so before you call someone out, either walk in their shoes, and learn about what your talking about. because either way, uninformed people like you come off sounding like big feeling a**holes
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