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Just to be clear on where I stand on this one.

I don't want Fassel at all.

Not as a head coach,

Not as coordinator,

Not as the guy who's going to take JC to the "next level".

Not as the next "whomever".

I don't care....don't want the guy - at all!

I'm with you on that one.

It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?


No, he wouldn't, I don't think that is the case at all. First of all, that wouldn't be smart business, and 'ole Danny boy didn't get to where he is by making off the cuff decisions like that. Second, what makes you think that Gibbs would choose GW as his successor. I've never heard him endorse GW with respect to the head coaching position. Maybe his advice to Daniel Snyder is just the opposite...

It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?

I highly doubt it. Danny is a smart man(look at all the money he made), and no one would spend weeks, expensive flights, etc. with a predetermined notion of firing GW to spite Gibbs lol.

If so Danny would have cut GW right away. I can't believe we are reaching at straws here now.

It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?
Do we even know how much of this was done with the help of Gibbs?

This would be another stupid move by a broken/disfunctional franchise. For some reason the Skins feel the need to use evryone else's cast off and reject coaches insteading of bringing in a new coach and letting him prove himself. I cant imagine the results would be any worse than they have been.

You mean like Cam Cameron, Lane Kiffen, Bobby Petrino, Eric Mangini (I'll give you that the jury is still out on him), Mike Nolan, Scott Linehan? (or how about Steve Spurrier)?

Not every coodinator w/ good press works out - and like QB's, there is a lot of luck involved. Tomlin and Payton are the exception, not the rule.

Just 'cause someone is an up and comer doesn't mean they're good.

One mans trash is another mans treasure. Probably a large contributor to Daniel Snyders success. Unfortunately this philosophy hasn't translated well for him in the NFL.

That being said, I'm willing to see what Fassel has to offer. I am not ready to say that he is a worse choice than Gregg Williams. This was an over-emotional year in a lot of respects, and I appreciate the fact that Snyder didn't pull the trigger too quick and name GW the head coach simply for continuity purposes and the fact that some players thought he would be the best choice as Gibbs successor. I'd rather he take the time, listen to those smart guys on the payroll who have "influence" on the matter, and make the decision that best suits the team for the long run. If that means sacrificing some "continuity" then so be it. I'd rather go through some more growing pains for the short term and get it right, than go with the "popular" choice for the sake of continuity.

I tend to agree with this. However, Snyder's hiring philosophy and track record, as you point out, have not been successful. I just don't trust the guy to put together a solid FO and coaching staff. Gibbs.2 is the closest he's come, and that's getting disassembled.

The ONE thing we have lacked since DS bought the team is continuity. So to give that up now -- for what, another spin on the Snyder merry-go-round? --just has to give you a queasy feeling. Honestly, Matty and others, don't you feel just a tad ill?

SmootSmack,

You are usually one of the most level-headed guys here, but it sure seems like you are in "damage control" mode. Will the fan exodus of this potential move hurt more than the mismanagement of this great franchise?

Schneed and redsk1 seem to be right on point. Just look at the War Path's poll, not everyone but an overwhelming majority want GW. As much because of his earning the job HERE, rather than his previous head coaching resume.

And Paintrain, what's up with that sig comparing GW to Patrick Ramsey? Williams has had a successful NFL career! Comparing him to a disappointing 1st round pick is simply wrong.

For the record, I would like to see Williams as HC, keep Saunders and continue what Gibbs started. I would understand going with a Cowher type HC, but if we have to blow up the entire coaching staff for a "B" level HC, my heart-felt Redskins passion will take a huge hit.

He's not mine:

#1 - The players, Gibbs and other coaches support and endorse him..

#2 - A new coach will not have the ability to change the roster for another 3 years at least. The cap situation will make it too difficult. The new coach will, for the most part, have to sink or swim for the next three years with the players already on the roster. See this thread for more:

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/22139-coach-selection-the-cap-rebuilding.html

#3 - Can we please keep Jason Campbell in the same offensive system? Note that every time the team has gone with a new system, the year after the change resulted in 5-11 season (2004) and a 6-10 season (2006). After being in a system for a year, the team went to the playoffs in each subsequent season.

#4 - Getting rid of Gregg will mean you lose Saunders, Jerry Gray, and possibly Joe Bugel. I can't seen any scenario in which the new staff is comprised of better coaching minds than the one we've got right now. It's not all about the head coaches, it's about the assistants too.

#5 - Gregg felt the loss of Sean Taylor just as much as anyone on the team. He'll be in a position to relate to the players on a personal level. Chemistry between coaches and players cannot possibly be any better than with GW.

Thank you for encapsulating several of the identical arguments I've been making elsewhere into a single, distilled opinion.

Schneed is *my* new hero.

SmootSmack,

You are usually one of the most level-headed guys here, but it sure seems like you are in "damage control" mode. Will the fan exodus of this potential move hurt more than the mismanagement of this great franchise?

Schneed and redsk1 seem to be right on point. Just look at the War Path's poll, not everyone but an overwhelming majority want GW. As much because of his earning the job HERE, rather than his previous head coaching resume.

And Paintrain, what's up with that sig comparing GW to Patrick Ramsey? Williams has had a successful NFL career! Comparing him to a disappointing 1st round pick is simply wrong.

For the record, I would like to see Williams as HC, keep Saunders and continue what Gibbs started. I would understand going with a Cowher type HC, but if we have to blow up the entire coaching staff for a "B" level HC, my heart-felt Redskins passion will take a huge hit.

LOL fan exodus?

I'd love to see it. We could afford to cut some dead weight.

Truth is all the people hating on this will be loving life if the team wins.

I think alot of people have too much emotion wrapped up in this decision and simply can't be objective about it right now. Maybe once the dust settles we'll see some more rational thinking. But for right now it's total freakout mode.

Truth is all the people hating on this will be loving life if the team wins.Every true fan has to eat his share of crow every now and then.