Ocho Cinco In B&G

are you crazy comparing b loyd to CJ thats like comparing Tom Brady to Brad Johnson


welcome but no need to ask someone if they are crazy.

This is the dumbest idea I've ever heard, which means that Snyder is almost certainly serious about it. Of course our reward for taking this idiot off of Mike Brown's hands is that he'll vote to opt out of the CBA and leave us in cap hell. It's all happening again God Dammit.

I agree with ya. I've been asked multiple times over the years with snyder "how do ya think the new coach will do" ? I always said as long as Snyder owns the team the skins will go nowhere. Well, when Gibbs was hired I thought maybe I was wrong. I thought Snyder had turned a page.

This offseason has proved me wrong once again. I just can't beleive some of the stupid stuff he does. He completely screwed the family bond this years team had with the firing of GW. I really think players would have moved mountains to stay here. However, Snyder through that out the window. The players can clearly see there is no loyalty in the organization. Y would anyone want to stick around.

Why can't we go into a draft one year with all of our draft picks? :censored:
I can't see giving up a 1st and a 3rd or two 2nd round picks for CJ. To even mention giving up Moss I would consider pure stupidity. However, we are talking about Snyder here huh?

I agree with ya. I've been asked multiple times over the years with snyder "how do ya think the new coach will do" ? I always said as long as Snyder owns the team the skins will go nowhere. Well, when Gibbs was hired I thought maybe I was wrong. I thought Snyder had turned a page. This offseason has proved me wrong once again. I just can't beleive some of the stupid stuff he does. He completely screwed the family bond this years team had with the firing of GW.

Why can't we go into a draft one year with all of our draft picks? :censored:


we have all but 1 of our picks this year

we have all but 1 of our picks this year

Yea, for now. However, if the CJ trade goes down there goes at least the 1st.

Yea, for now. However, if the CJ trade goes down there goes at least the 1st.


not necesarily why not take a wait and see approach instead of going in saying "fuck" everything

No to Ocho Cinco.

1) Not what a first time HC needs; a 30 yr. old, very expensive, self-serving head case in the locker room.

2) Johnson "disappears" quite a bit. His numbers are misleading, he will explode in a couple of games and then do little or nothing for 3-4 weeks at a time.

3) Not sure the Bengals are going to want to take an $ 8M + cap hit anyway

not necesarily why not take a wait and see approach instead of going in saying "fuck" everything

Im waiting to see what happens. Just voicing my opinion on past years. Im hoping we have learned from the past.

No to Ocho Cinco.

1) Not what a first time HC needs; a 30 yr. old, very expensive, self-serving head case in the locker room.

2) Johnson "disappears" quite a bit. His numbers are misleading, he will explode in a couple of games and then do little or nothing for 3-4 weeks at a time.

3) Not sure the Bengals are going to want to take an $ 8M + cap hit anyway


Explain that part more please.

Explain that part more please.
Obviously the NFL is a business and players need to look out for their best interest; but threatening to sit out 2008 to force a trade, trashing the Bengals organization in multiple interviews, trashing the Cincy media, pushing reporters, on top of the whole "look at me" celebrations is what I'm referring to.

I could get past the celebration thing if he's putting up TDs for the Skins, but the guy is in a 4-year contract and pretty well paid. Things are a little bumpy up in Cincy and he's ready to bail. What happens if JC struggles or Zorn makes a few mistakes.....not enough upside from Chad for the money and potential headaches for the Skins IMO.

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No to Ocho Cinco.

1) Not what a first time HC needs; a 30 yr. old, very expensive, self-serving head case in the locker room.

2) Johnson "disappears" quite a bit. His numbers are misleading, he will explode in a couple of games and then do little or nothing for 3-4 weeks at a time.

3) Not sure the Bengals are going to want to take an $ 8M + cap hit anyway

I tend to disagree with note 2)

to the contrary if you look at the production of T. J. Houshmandzadeh this past season, you will see he has more yards and TD's than CJ.

But I credit that as a direct reflection of CJ's abilities. With most teams shifting coverges to Johnsons side and doubling him, it created more opportunities for Houshmandzadeh to excel.

That is what a WR of Johnsons abilities brings to the table. He does not have to get 25 TD's and 1500 yds per year to contribute. His mere presence on the field forces defenses to account for him at all times, thereby creating opportunities for his team mates.

Just think of the possibilities of Moss and Johnson on the field. Who do you double team? Pick your poison is all I can say.

Throw ARE in the slot and you have provided Campbell with several legitimate targets. Did I mention Cooley?