Ocho Cinco In B&G

I do not think that Chad Johnson should be lumped in with troublemakers like T.O. and Randy Moss. However, he's no Art Monk. Johnson has engaged in excessive celebrations on numerous occasions despite knowing that such celebrations would draw 15 yard penalties. Team players do not knowingly draw 15 yard penalties simply to get ESPN's attention. Johnson also reportedly had several temper tantrums over the past few years in which he reportedly yelled and, even swung at, members of the coaching staff. Gibbs-esque players do not yell at the coaching staff.

I also think that Johnson will likely play at a Pro Bowl level for several more years. However, I do not believe it is wise to trade high draft picks (which the Bengals would surely demand) for 30 year old wideouts who expect to be highly paid, much less highly-paid 30 year old players who also demand to be the center of attention and who have little regard for the "team concept" and even less respect for authority.

In my opinion, we would be much better served using high draft picks to gamble on younger, more respectful, and less-demanding (both in terms of attention and money) draftees. Chad Johnson is certainly a star, but he's also got a trail of baggage that I would prefer to do without.

Yeah bring in another troubled reciever to start up problems on the team and create a hostile work place. Remember how good of a player Michael Westbrook was but because of his bad behavior it was never shown because he stayed in so much trouble.

I would rather have Randy Moss to go with Santana Moss and El, because it is very clear Randy has grown up and no longer causes the problems on the field that he use to. And for those who want to bring up the situation in Florida I really do believe R. Moss when he says he didn't do anything wrong and trust me I've never ever been a fan or R. Moss' and really still not but I do admire him for growing up and behaving properly now.

So I would rather have Randy than Chad

Moss is behaving himself because the Pats are winning. If he comes to the Skins and they pull their usual 7-9 to 9-7 routine and miss the playoffs he wont be happy.

Matter of opinion I guess. I think it meshes pretty well with those two threads, it justs lends credence to them. But whatever, as SS pointed out, I was wrong, sorry to offend.

Not wrong. Just a matter of opinion.

By the way, someone mentioned possibly drafting Limas Sweed. I think if they go WR in the first round (which I don't think they will), they'll go with Malcolm Kelly.

I think CJ is a good wideout, but his performance kind of fell off this year, didn't it? SGG is right, better to draft the next Chad Johnson, not the current one who's going to command top dollar...

I think CJ is a good wideout, but his performance kind of fell off this year, didn't it? SGG is right, better to draft the next Chad Johnson, not the current one who's going to command top dollar...

Easier said then done. Finding a quality rookie wideout is almost as hard as drafting a good QB.

Yeah bring in another troubled reciever to start up problems on the team and create a hostile work place. Remember how good of a player Michael Westbrook was but because of his bad behavior it was never shown because he stayed in so much trouble.

I would rather have Randy Moss to go with Santana Moss and El, because it is very clear Randy has grown up and no longer causes the problems on the field that he use to. And for those who want to bring up the situation in Florida I really do believe R. Moss when he says he didn't do anything wrong and trust me I've never ever been a fan or R. Moss' and really still not but I do admire him for growing up and behaving properly now.

So I would rather have Randy than Chad


No offense, but to say that Randy Moss is less troubled than Chad Johnson is just stupid. I really dont know where people are getting the "headcase" label from. In 2005, when the Bengals are winning everyone loves him, now that the Bengals suck he is a "headcase" And how can u compare CJ to Michael Westbrook. They are not even inthe same breath. All the people that called Chad Johnson a "headcase" need to look up the definition of the word.

I'm sure he'd get a huge payday here. The thought of giving Campbell that kind of target is very intriguing though. Johnson, Moss, El. Wow. I'd put those three up against New England's receivers anyday.
the problem with your comparison is that we don't have Brady, and that is not a knock on campbell.

Easier said then done. Finding a quality rookie wideout is almost as hard as drafting a good QB.

First round WRs are usually 50/50 gambles, but, then again, free agent wideouts aren't exactly sure-things. Brandon Lloyd anyone? Moreover, the upside and risk on lower 1st round draftees is far and away better than that of FA wideouts.

Easier said then done. Finding a quality rookie wideout is almost as hard as drafting a good QB.

I think you can find a difference maker WR in the third round

No offense, but to say that Randy Moss is less troubled than Chad Johnson is just stupid. I really dont know where people are getting the "headcase" label from. In 2005, when the Bengals are winning everyone loves him, now that the Bengals suck he is a "headcase" And how can u compare CJ to Michael Westbrook. They are not even inthe same breath. All the people that called Chad Johnson a "headcase" need to look up the definition of the word.

See my earlier post + post #51 from Sheriff GG. In 05 Johnson began to be a problem when things didn't go well. In the last few years Johnson has been more of problem than Moss IMO. I know that Moss gave up in Oak. & he's still capable of being a problem, but overall he seems to have grown up a lot.