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djnemo65 06-20-2008, 05:13 AM Well...not saying I'm smart at all but I do try to avoid highways as much as possible only because of the number of vehicles on the highway. COMMON SENSE tells you that the more cars on the highway the better chance you have of getting into an accident.
Lets use your logic then. He should not have any problem walking into a biker bar and asking for a drink right? or walking into a gay bar and not getting hit on because it's not his fault for going into those places right or because he has a right as a citizen to go into those places.
Make no mistake...he was a victim. Some of us are saying that if he valued his money and his jewlery and his life he would not have:
1. been out all night. although it's his right to.
2. flashed his jewlery. Save it for a more upscale party.
3. SPRAYED PEOPLE WITH CHAMPAIGN. It kinda pisses people off.
Number three is what probably caused the beating. Yeah he was having fun with Mayweather but someone probably got sprayed that did not want to get sprayed and took it to another level.
You know it's funny. When your young you think you can defend yourself from anything until you find out you can't. As you get older and mature you realize that there is always someone out there that can take what you have at anytime. They can steal your car. steal your money. steal your identity. The only thing one can do is try to eliminate the "chances of opportunity". Oh, he's a victim but a victim of his own circumstance.
LOL, highway driving is BY FAR safer than driving on surface streets. Highway Driving Safety (Cars: Road Rules) (http://www.videojug.com/interview/highway-driving-safety#are-highways-and-freeways-more-dangerous-than-surface-streets)
So much for trusting your common sense.
The attack on Walker may have happened regardless of his behavior and appearance that night, but I find it hard to believe that his flashing of expensive jewelry and spraying of champagne didn't at least contribute to bringing extra attention to himself and therefore making him more of a target than he already was. To think that it had nothing to do with it is pretty naive IMO.
Jamaican'Skin 06-20-2008, 08:54 AM The attack on Walker may have happened regardless of his behavior and appearance that night, but I find it hard to believe that his flashing of expensive jewelry and spraying of champagne didn't at least contribute to bringing extra attention to himself and therefore making him more of a target than he already was. To think that it had nothing to do with it is pretty naive IMO.
So you're saying I'm naive for believing that his status played a bigger role in him getting robbed and assaulted than his behavior did? I don't think. I just believe that it is another way of looking at the situation.
I can agree with you all that his behavior may have contributed to the situation, but I beleive that his status played a bigger role. I've been out to clubs, and have seen people in the VIP section acting similarly, yet none of them get hurt. Why? Beacause nobody knows who these guys are. They work the whole week at a 9 to 5, or hustle on street corners, or whatever they do to get income, and want to enjoy themselves on the weekend. They replicate Javon's actions, and are not assaulted when leaving the scene. The major difference between these guys and Javon is his multi million dollar contract. Thats the way I see it.
So you're saying I'm naive for believing that his status played a bigger role in him getting robbed and assaulted than his behavior did? I don't think. I just believe that it is another way of looking at the situation.
I can agree with you all that his behavior may have contributed to the situation, but I beleive that his status played a bigger role. I've been out to clubs, and have seen people in the VIP section acting similarly, yet none of them get hurt. Why? Beacause nobody knows who these guys are. They work the whole week at a 9 to 5, or hustle on street corners, or whatever they do to get income, and want to enjoy themselves on the weekend. They replicate Javon's actions, and are not assaulted when leaving the scene. The major difference between these guys and Javon is his multi million dollar contract. Thats the way I see it.
No, that's not what I said.
I said if you think his spraying of champagne and flashing of jewelry had nothing to do with it then you are naive.
You seem to acknowledge now it had something to do with it, but his status played a larger role.
Maybe it did, I'm just saying his actions brought more attention to himself. Attention that you don't need as a high profile celeb.
If he had stayed low key in the club he might have been better off, that's all I'm trying to say.
AND, it may happen all the time to the SMO just blowin' off steam in the VIP section. It's not news and we will not hear about it.
Slingin Sammy 33 06-20-2008, 10:54 AM I haven't followed this very closely, but one thing seems very apparent. If you are going to blow $ 25K on Dom to spray people with at a club, why the heck can't you pay $ 1K a piece to a couple of Kimbo-type dudes to watch your back. Or put each one on payroll at $ 100K / yr.
Not sure if Mayweather or anyone in his group was responsible for this, but Walker was found alone so I am assuming he didn't have any of his own "back-up". Even Pac-man has enough sense to travel with a group of people.
I haven't followed this very closely, but one thing seems very apparent. If you are going to blow $ 25K on Dom to spray people with at a club, why the heck can't you pay $ 1K a piece to a couple of Kimbo-type dudes to watch your back. Or put each one on payroll at $ 100K / yr.
Not sure if Mayweather or anyone in his group was responsible for this, but Walker was found alone so I am assuming he didn't have any of his own "back-up". Even Pac-man has enough sense to travel with a group of people.
I was thinking some of the same thing.
When was the last time you (or typically anyone) really had a big night of bar hoppin', and partying ALL
NIGHT................alone?? I, like most have had some of these nights (albeit on the cheap by comparison). It is always done in a group. No fun alone. What's the deal?
jdlea 06-20-2008, 12:03 PM I was thinking some of the same thing.
When was the last time you (or typically anyone) really had a big night of bar hoppin', and partying ALL
NIGHT................alone?? I, like most have had some of these nights (albeit on the cheap by comparison). It is always done in a group. No fun alone. What's the deal?
I believe he was out with Floyd Mayweather...at least that's my understanding of the situation, I could be wrong
Well, whatever the circumstance, it's a shame
12thMan 06-20-2008, 04:42 PM Even Pac-man has enough sense to travel with a group of people.
By the way, it's Adam Jones now. He has officially dropped Pac Man going forward.
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