FISA with Telecom Immunity Passed

saden, are you really bin laden?

saden, are you really bin laden?

No, I'm just paranoid mofo...I do use Skype (http://www.amazon.com/Philips-VOIP841-PC-Free-Wireless-Phone/dp/B000ND75FW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1215729196&sr=8-1) so my liberties are pretty safe (http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=145). I'm just pissed because this whole FISA thing is a f'ing sham. Might as well hope for security becasue terrorists on Skype can "win."

It's about the algorithm used and the key size. Even at 1024-bit key size RSA encryption is trash when it comes to encrypting data. No one in their right mind would use it nowadays because it's susceptible to chosen-plaintext attacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_plaintext_attack) and there are better encryption schemes out there. What you really want is AES (Rijndael (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rijndael)) which the NSA approved for encrypting classified documents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard#Security) or Twofish which is even better.

No, I'm just paranoid mofo...I do use Skype (http://www.amazon.com/Philips-VOIP841-PC-Free-Wireless-Phone/dp/B000ND75FW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1215729196&sr=8-1) so my liberties are pretty safe (http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=145). I'm just pissed because this whole FISA thing is a f'ing sham. Might as well hope for security becasue terrorists on Skype can "win."

Pretty safe is correct, I guess. Skype uses RSA for AES key negotiation. If you can in fact use a chosen plaintext attack on RSA, then by using AES for the actual data stream is kind of pointless (other than the performance gained), I would think. Once you get the agreed upon key, you can then trivially decrypt all communications between the two parties.

But that all rides on a successfully executed chosen text attack. I've never seen RSA broken in that fashion, and if it has been successfully done, I'd love to see some performance stats.

All of this is neither here nor there, though. You can have the strongest encryption in the world, but in the end humans are the ones using it. Generally speaking, humans are terrible at securing their security. That is why you do not need brute force, chosen text, distributed brute force, mathematical cracks, etc to break encryption. Bluntly, people are stupid and lazy.

btw, the whole "get a court order" thing is a sham, cause the courts just rubber stamped everything, so it really didn't provide any oversight or checks on power.

btw, the whole "get a court order" thing is a sham, cause the courts just rubber stamped everything, so it really didn't provide any oversight or checks on power.
Your right on in that and all it really does is delay the process. That delay could cost lives.

I'm reading a lot of people who justify the removal of liberties with "improved" security.

While removing liberties might protect us from one threat, it will only expose another -- the government. There has to be a better solution.

ah, ghetto. the voice of reason. every time this administration wants some thing done, they use the fear of terrorism. they have said it so much, people are starting to become immune to it

I'm reading a lot of people who justify the removal of liberties with "improved" security.

While removing liberties might protect us from one threat, it will only expose another -- the government. There has to be a better solution.
While I understand what your saying I just don't think the goverment has the man power or the time to listen in on every Tom, Dicks, & Harry's phone calls. It funny how peopl don't trust the goverment to handle this but they don't have a problem with them handeling things that really affect their lives like, SS, health care, schools, etc... So if we don't trust the goverment lets take away their power to handle the things that really affect our life.

ah, ghetto. the voice of reason. every time this administration wants some thing done, they use the fear of terrorism. they have said it so much, people are starting to become immune to it
This administration? So your man Obama is not smart enough to figure out if this was a bill he should or should not vote for and for that matter all the other dems who voted for the bill? This bill could not have passed without their vote.

no one does everything right. i was a Bill Clinton supporter, but think NAFTA is a piece of trash. the democrats have talked about all they were going to accomplish. yet, they have done little/ to nothing. i think he took what he thought was the best piece of legislation that was passable. but you are getting off topic alittle. this is a bad bill for the United States public