Luxorreb
07-21-2008, 04:57 AM
It's the best possible scenario with the horrible season loss of Phillip Daniels and the loss of up and coming prospect Buzbee. Taylor is expensive and he's 33, but he's also a speedy 6'5" 255 and had 11 sacks last season with 1-15 Miami. Only better possible pickup would be if Strahan pulled a Favre.
mooby
07-21-2008, 05:03 AM
I don't think anybody did GIG lol.
As for my earlier statements, I'd like to clarify and say that after hearing that Cerrato is 100% certain Taylor will play more than 1 year and Taylor apparantly (not confirmed) as saying he will definitely play out the remainder of his contract and perhaps more, I am heartening up more to this trade. A lot of people have made the argument that if Taylor can perform like the elite DE he is for the next two seasons it will be a pretty even trade for a 2nd rounder, considering that elite DE's are hard to come by in this league and this move could help solidify and even bolster our pass rush to the better ones in the league.
I am slightly concerned about run defense though. Andre Carter and Jason Taylor aren't known as being good run stoppers, I thought Phillip Daniels excelled in that role and even though we are gaining a legitimate pass rushing threat to go on the other side of Carter, we are still losing talent in terms of Daniels' run stopping ability compared to Taylor's.
marius
07-21-2008, 05:24 AM
When I saw the headline my initial reaction was 'great!'. Taylor is a high character guy who performed outstandingly well for a dire team and has a great track record of not getting injured. He is a definite upgrade on Daniels (although this is a sad way for a fine man to probably end his career) and should immediately improve what was one of the key weaknesses on this team - pressuring the quarterback.
A 2nd rounder is high but given the urgency of the situation to end up with a hall of fame calibre player (even if for only 2 seasons) is the best result possible in teh circumstances. With he and Carter coming off the edge to pressure Manning, Romo and McNabb we suddenly look a lot more threatening. You can bet that those three don't like this news and that in itself is enough for me to like it.
KLHJ2
07-21-2008, 06:38 AM
WTF, Bruce Smith part deux. Let me rationalize my perspective. I in no way believe that JT no longer has the ability. I question his desire to play for us and at the Pro Bowl caliber. I just question his motivation to be the best that he can, knowing that he is on his way out of the league. He is the one who said that he would always be a Miami Dolphin.
I hope that he at least compensates us for the 2nd round pick we gave up for him with his play on the field. In all honesty I was more excited about acquiring EJ than JT.....Longevity.
I had to waste 3000 on this.
budw38
07-21-2008, 06:47 AM
I feel for P. Daniels , the man works very hard to be in top shape and is a team guy 100% . I would have rather give up a 3rd rd pick , but Taylor could make the D into a scary unit . Evans and maybe Golston could play DE in 3rd and short if our run D fell off a bit . Lets just stay healthy , get Rocky / Rogers back @ 100 % and get some solid production from C. Wilson , Golston , and some of our young nickel backs and Romo, Manning and McNabb could be in for a rough year !
memphisskin
07-21-2008, 07:11 AM
Seems kinda funny that we had just enough cap room to fit JT and the move came together so quickly.
Hmmmmmm....
It does seem to fit together nicely, especially considering how close to the cap we normally are for us to be $9 million over heading into camp shows some foresight from the front office. I have to give it up, they were prepared.
I'm not happy about the deal.
The way I look at it is, would I give up Devin Thomas and Durant Brooks for a guy who is likely to play 2 years max?
I would have to say no.
It does seem to fit together nicely, especially considering how close to the cap we normally are for us to be $9 million over heading into camp shows some foresight from the front office. I have to give it up, they were prepared.
I think they had this move in their back pocket all along.
memphisskin
07-21-2008, 07:24 AM
1. We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think the Giants were specifically planning for Strahan's retirement 4 years ago when they drafted Tuck or 6 years ago when they drafted Omenyiora.
2. It's the offseason. He's entitled, especially considering what he's proven for over a decade, to do what he wants. He'll probably have more sacks alone than all of the Dolphins DEs
3. I'm sure Evans will get playing time, regardless.
1. The Giants may not have been planning for Strahan's retirement when they picked Osi in '03, but they sure have been ever since. Even with those bookends they continued to draft DEs in '04 (Reggie Torbor), '05 (Tuck), '06 (Mathias Kiwanuka) and even '08 (Robert Henderson, albeit in the 6th round). They have even played Tuck at DT and Kiwanuka at LB to get those guys reps on the field, Kiwanuka will probably go back to the D-line, but his experience at linebacker gives Spagnuolo even more flexibility.
2. I totally agree with you on Taylor dancing, he was doing that on his own time. Shawn Springs didn't come train at Redskin Park the past two years, but he's been our best corner. Parcells dissing Taylor was an old school move, kinda like GW and Lavar, or Schottenheimer and Centers. Pick one veteran to make an example that no one is bigger than the team.
3. Evans and Wilson will definitely get reps. James too, if he can get healthy. I like that our D-line got stronger from the top.
Chaos47
07-21-2008, 07:45 AM
This is a GREAT move by the skins! With Carter and Taylor on the ends... This will improve the pass rush we have been lacking.