Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)

So if we did move Evans up to starter who would back him up then?

I know they had to make this move, but let's not forget what put them in this position in the first place...

This is what happens when you depend on 35 year-old guy season after season who has spent 13 years at the most violent position on the football field. All this crap about being a "great locker room leader" sure sounds great now, huh? Suppose this front office hadn't ignored the defensive end position at the upper end of the draft for the past, oh, ELEVEN years?

So what we've done is replace a 35 year-old guy with a 34 year-old guy who'd rather be making movies and they've lost a high draft pick in the process.

Wonderful.

So if we did move Evans up to starter who would back him up then?

Cedric Wilson man, the DE equivalent of Anthony Mix and Robert McCune

Where does this metric come from? I don't see how you can accurately predicit that a single 2nd round pick gives a team 2-3 wins over his rookie contract? Way too many variables to factor in. Maybe at QB, but it don't see how you could do this at any other position. This is not baseball or basketball. Football is the ultimate team sport and one player can't win games almost single-handed (outside of a Brady/Manning type QB or dominant pass rusher like LT or Reggie White).Well, the exact win total is based on some work I've been doing to convert value to team into a win estimate.

For example, if we consider Jon Kitna to be the standard for a starting QB, with most teams having better options, (I just picked a guy who's got a readily available skill set, and doesn't do too much to hurt his team), we can estimate that Tom Brady was worth about 5 wins more than Kitna-level last year alone. Essentially saying that the Patriots, with the same schedule, same team, but Jon Kitna at QB, would have been an 11-5 team.

The value metrics are readily available at places like footballoutsiders.com (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/index.php), profootballreference.com's (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=561) blog, KC Joyner's articles (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/columns/story?columnist=joyner_kc&id=3470413&campaign=rsssrch&source=kc_joyner) on ESPN.com, and Brian Burke's Advanced Football Stats blog (http://www.bbnflstats.com/2008/07/why-chargers-defense-will-decline-in-08.html).

There's always going to be slight disagreement among the systems about certain players value, but generally these four sources paint me a pretty good picture of just how valuable a player is.

Anyway, I'm most concerned with how valuable a rookies' first 4 years in the league are for a few reasons: 1) it's a good indicator of how good he will be, and 2) that's how long in which his draft position will determine how much he exceeds his value by.

For a second rounder, in his 2nd-4th years in the league, we know that he's likely to be better than a replacement level player, and a key contributor on this team. Everything I've done says that a second round pick who doesn't bust out of the league, but also fails to become a superstar will be worth not quite a win per season on his rookie deal.

So I'm estimating over a large sample when I say the average second rounder is worth 2-3 wins over his rookie deal. About a third of the second round selections will be less than that, and a third will be more than that. But that's the expectation for a second round selection, and expectation is really the only thing we are dealing with here.

By the same estimations, Derek Anderson was worth a single win over the Kitna-line in 2007.

I've got the day off today so I'm trying to do some work to see if I can look at the differences between Daniels' value and Taylor's value and see just how much better the Redskins are now than they we're before camp yesterday.

So if we did move Evans up to starter who would back him up then?

James, Jackson, Wilson and pick up someone off the waiver wire.

Cedric Wilson man, the DE equivalent of Anthony Mix and Robert McCune

You mean Chris Wilson, right?

Jason Taylor will make everyone around him better. We had no one worth double teaming on our line. Carter stepped up at the end of the year and may have started to get double teamed. If anything now jason taylor will continue to be double teamed and open up opportunities for the other 3 linemen to get to the QB.

Ive always thought Andre Carter was in the mold of Jason Taylor, but hadnt learned all the technique yet. Well now he will learn first hand. No one heard of Adowale Ogunleye (sp) and Taylor turned him into a sack machine by takign the double teams to his side.

Im sooo happy we finally have a pass rush with our front four. We need that pressure even more so being thin at corner.

YES, you have it. He will make everybody around him better!!! As you say, he will create oppurtunities for the down lineman..........and for Carter.
JT is a good guy. Monster on the field, AND in the locker room as well . Pretty good "fox-trot" as well
Whatever he has left in the tank, we WILL get. That is who he is. My only regret is.......we do not play the Fins this season
nice work Vinny!!!!!!!!

So if we did move Evans up to starter who would back him up then?James/Wilson.

I do think we needed to add something at DE after Buzbee also got hurt. We could have waited for Philadelphia to shave one DE off their roster, lord knows they have way too many for their own good. Maybe we would have gotten Jerome McDougal at a bargain basement price.

It's moot now, and we'll never know for sure, but I really think we would have been fine.

You mean Chris Wilson, right?

Yeah, my bad, I thought the first name was wrong, but was way too lazy to go look it up...lol