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JWsleep 08-31-2008, 02:11 PM Comment on the alleged draft failure regarding Thomas and Kelly.
One, they've both been injured. Hard to learn and progress in the pro-game (especially in one with the WCO) if you can't take reps.
Two, given the last point, why are y'all (and of course, not all y'all), why are you ready to call them failures? My guess: You are (perhaps rightly!) suspicious of Vinny. Fine. But this year they went draft heavy as opposed to FA heavy. This is one of the down sides of going with the draft. A little patience please!
Three, Do you really want them to bring in a has-been vet cast off who might help us in the beginning of this year, but adds NOTHING to the future of this team? Now, Thomas and Kelly might be busts, but there is clearly POTENTIAL there. No potential in a vet beyond a few games this year. Is that good FO policy?
Four, I'm sorry folks, but Billy McMullin is not that good. He's not bad either, and he played well in preseason. But is there really a great upside with him? Maybe, but it's a long shot. We didn't keep him, in any event, because we had worries elsewhere. It's not McMullin vs. Thomas/Kelly. It's McMullin vs. the needs at Dline, DB, Oline, etc. Now, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see another WR on the team or even Billy McM during the year as play and health dictate. But right now, we've got other issues.
JWsleep 08-31-2008, 02:29 PM Don't know if this is posted elsewhere, but a nice rebuttal of Wise's BS (IMO) column this morning in the Post. From Rich Tandler's skins blog:
Rich Tandler's Real Redskins: Stirring a Frosty pot (http://realredskins.com/2008/08/stirring-frosty-pot.html)
sportscurmudgeon 08-31-2008, 02:55 PM There is a saying in basketball that a player is "All-airport". It means that he is very tall and looks very athletic so when he comes into town through the airport people stare at him and think he's a great basketball player - - but he really can't play...
Billy McMullen is the football version of "All-airport"...
Any NFL team that counts on him to be a difference maker is a team going nowhere.
EXoffender 08-31-2008, 04:07 PM I'm surprised Justin Hamilton made the cut and we're keeping 5 safeties. It could be a little insurance since Landry is still ailing. He could be the next "Redskins Yo-Yo".
SFREDSKIN 08-31-2008, 04:27 PM I'm surprised Justin Hamilton made the cut and we're keeping 5 safeties. It could be a little insurance since Landry is still ailing. He could be the next "Redskins Yo-Yo".
He had a great game against Jacksonville, this guy is big and can hit, same goes for Horton and Moore. I like what I see in all 3 of them, NFC East will have to respect our safeties, even if they can't cover as well yet, they can put a hurt on you.
Ruhskins 08-31-2008, 05:01 PM Comment on the alleged draft failure regarding Thomas and Kelly.
One, they've both been injured. Hard to learn and progress in the pro-game (especially in one with the WCO) if you can't take reps.
Two, given the last point, why are y'all (and of course, not all y'all), why are you ready to call them failures? My guess: You are (perhaps rightly!) suspicious of Vinny. Fine. But this year they went draft heavy as opposed to FA heavy. This is one of the down sides of going with the draft. A little patience please!
Three, Do you really want them to bring in a has-been vet cast off who might help us in the beginning of this year, but adds NOTHING to the future of this team? Now, Thomas and Kelly might be busts, but there is clearly POTENTIAL there. No potential in a vet beyond a few games this year. Is that good FO policy?
Four, I'm sorry folks, but Billy McMullin is not that good. He's not bad either, and he played well in preseason. But is there really a great upside with him? Maybe, but it's a long shot. We didn't keep him, in any event, because we had worries elsewhere. It's not McMullin vs. Thomas/Kelly. It's McMullin vs. the needs at Dline, DB, Oline, etc. Now, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see another WR on the team or even Billy McM during the year as play and health dictate. But right now, we've got other issues.
I thnk there's a difference between developing players for the future and bring in players to help right away so the team an go back to the playoffs. Thomas and Kelly are great pick ups for the future and hopefully they will develop into a good wideout group our team can depend on. So for the goal of getting young receivers that can help the future of the team, this was a successful draft. To be honest, no one should have expected for Thomas and Kelly to come in and help our team deficiencies in offense and help them get back to the playoffs.
DIRTEE 08-31-2008, 05:34 PM They are both upgrades over Brandon Lloyd.
mitch e 08-31-2008, 05:52 PM I am 63 and I am an upgrade over BL!! And will work for alot less money.
Ruhskins 08-31-2008, 06:27 PM Speaking of the devil, I just saw that the Dolphins picked BL from waivers. Interesting.
skinsfan_nn 08-31-2008, 06:35 PM Speaking of the devil, I just saw that the Dolphins picked BL from waivers. Interesting.
Huh....? I believe the unpopular Ex-Skin BL is starting with the bears.....
You must be speaking of Brandon London waived by the giants.
DOLPHINS CLAIM ALLEMAN, GARNER, LONDON (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/31/dolphins-claim-alleman-garner-london/)
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 31, 2008, 6:05 p.m.
The Miami Dolphins have had an active day on the waiver wire, claiming three players who were waived yesterday.
Adam Schefter of NFL (http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#) Network is reporting that Miami picked up center Andy Alleman, a 2007 third-round draft pick who was waived by the Saints yesterday. Alleman is a talented player, and Schefter reports that nearly a quarter of the league wanted him: In addition to Miami, he was claimed by Arizona, Denver, Indianapolis, Kansas City, New England and the New York Jets.
The Dolphins also claimed offensive tackle Nate Garner, waived by the Jets, and wide receiver Brandon London, waived by the Giants.
Other waiver claims made today include Indianapolis grabbing linebacker Buster Davis from the Lions. Davis was a third-round pick of the Cardinals last year.
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