Don't you think we are overreacting just a bit??

I think Matty is right on about the overreaction we've seen both among us fans and in the media. Probably what pisses me off most about the cries of a falling sky and whatnot is how the debate/discussion over the fundamentals gets relegated. I come to this forum hoping to learn more about all aspects of professional football and since the loss Thursday there hasn't been much serious analysis about how we're running the WCO, what could work better, etc. Obviously the offense will have to make some adjustments to have success. I'm not hearing much for ideas around here (or elsewhere).

YES. It's a shame there are so many half-wit impetuous redskins fans. It's been like the goddamn Salem witch trials. Our rookie head coach lost to the Superbowl champions by 9 points and we want to burn him alive. Joe Gibbs lost his first 6 games in Washington. Was the game ugly? Yeah it was, but give the guy a chance. And to all of you "casual observers of the game"... Stop with this bench Jason Campbell madness. It's childish, moronic and anyone who would say such a thing knows absolutely nothing about pro football!!!!

you said it best!!!
As bad as they were they lost to the champs...I am waiting to get them back at our home later in the season when we hand them a sound thumping...Bring it!

People I think are just a little let down from waiting the whole off season and getting a very obvious team that needs more time to develop. I think if we put anything together offensively in the game we would have won...We didn't so we wait for week 2.

The saints are pretty week in defense...so I want 14 -21 points...not unrealistic I don't think!

Don't expect us to roll over the Saints, they did a great job shoring up their d this offseason with Jonathan Vilma and Sedrick Ellis.

We've got plenty of work to do, obviously, but I'm not jumping ship just yet. This probably has more to do with the fact that I missed the game because I had to work.

I still hold out hope that Zorn will identify all the mistakes made in the game, including his, and correct them this week in practice. From what I've seen most of the mistakes we made were very basic fundamental ones so they shouldn't be too hard to fix.

I think people just need to realize that man for man we just don't match up with the top teams in the NFL. We lack true playmakers on both sides of the ball and we are not a strong team in the trenches. When you add on that fact that our front office is below average and we've got a rookie head coach that looks to be a little in over his head you've got a 4-6 win team. Sometimes people just need to face the facts. I know it sucks cause we homers tend to think our guys are better then they really are. I think that's just the case, not only around here but all over town. Once people realize it then maybe we won't see all the overreacting.

I think Matty is right on about the overreaction we've seen both among us fans and in the media.I think that is just the nature of the die-hard fan. We have so much passion that we take it harder when our team(s) perform poorly. $h!t, some of you probably remember my old signature and was bashing the Giants up until they beat Tampa Bay in the first round of the play-offs. My brother who is a steelers fan laughs at me because he thinks I am a putz because the day after the Super Bowl I was saying that despite the run, I wasn't convinced that Eli had actually turned the corner as a QB and didn't just happen to get hot at the right time.

you said it best!!!
As bad as they were they lost to the champs...I am waiting to get them back at our home later in the season when we hand them a sound thumping...Bring it!

People I think are just a little let down from waiting the whole off season and getting a very obvious team that needs more time to develop. I think if we put anything together offensively in the game we would have won...We didn't so we wait for week 2.

The saints are pretty week in defense...so I want 14 -21 points...not unrealistic I don't think!
If we don't score more than 14 points against the Saints than this offense truly is pathetic.

I guess maybe it's just the timing of the overreactions. Week 1 and people are already pulling the plug.

Well, I guess it kind of depends on what your definition of "overreaction" is.

If I said that based on what I saw in the preseason, and what I saw the other night, that we will not make the playoffs this season, is that an overreaction? I don't think so at all.

Now, am I saying ridiculous things like trading for Jason Taylor was a bad idea, and Jason Campbell is all wrong for the WCO? Hell no. But I definitely don't think we'll make the playoffs.

You said yourself the offense clearly needs time, alluding to the length of time Hasselbeck took to get up to speed in Seattle as precedent. And if you're willing to wait half a season for the offense to come around, aren't you really saying that you don't expect us to win very much during the first half of the year?

I mean, our defense is solid, but it's not spectacular. It's basically the same group from last year with the same schemes, which placed 9th in the NFL. That's above average, but not good enough to win games for us while our offense finds its way, a la Trent Dilfer and the 2000 Ravens.

Now's about the time during this post when people start saying, "well yeah but it's still possible, there are 15 games left." Of course it's possible, that's not the question. Is it PROBABLE? That's the question.

If our expectations are that the offense will struggle as JC learns it, then we can't possibly expect the 'Skins to beat Dallas in Dallas and Philly in Philly, can we? It's possible, but not probable.

I'll give you this, an overreaction would be to say that it's impossible for the 'Skins to make the playoffs. But it would be right on point to say they probably won't - anything else is irrational exuberance buoyed by the emotional hopes of a football-starved fan in early September.

I think people just need to realize that man for man we just don't match up with the top teams in the NFL. We lack true playmakers on both sides of the ball and we are not a strong team in the trenches. When you add on that fact that our front office is below average and we've got a rookie head coach that looks to be a little in over his head you've got a 4-6 win team. Sometimes people just need to face the facts. I know it sucks cause we homers tend to think our guys are better then they really are. I think that's just the case, not only around here but all over town. Once people realize it then maybe we won't see all the overreacting.

Well, now you are making the case for an overreaction with statements like these. I agree we're not strong in the trenches, but judging Zorn and Cerrato as below average and in over his head after one game is premature. You don't have enough evidence yet to judge Cerrato's first draft class which he was solely in charge of. And one game isn't enough time to tell you whether Zorn can hold a team together through crisis and teach his players how to improve.

I do think we'll end up with a top 10 pick in the draft this year, but to rag on Zorn and Vinny at this point is premature. You just can't expect this team to be very good after such a big transition.

Here's the ultimate sniff test: how in the world do you go from Joe Gibbs to Jim Zorn and get better right away? If you expected Zorn to be better off the bat than Joe Gibbs was in his 4th season back, then you either drastically underestimate what a change in scheme does to a team or you think Joe Gibbs 2.0 was a terrible coach (in which case you're a moron).

The Zorn hire marked a new era. It meant we have to spend a year going through a tough learning period in hopes of taking steps forward in 2009, taking us further than where we were in 2007.

I first considered diplomacy, political correctness, and decorum to be the answer......
BUT
You say tomato, I say tomaato, but............
A cry baby Bitch is a cry baby Bitch!
AND in Redskinsville, we have surplus!

We all know that some, maybe more than some overreact.

I don't think it's an overreaction to say that it was one of the sloppiest time management games I've seen in a while. A new head coach doesn't get a pass. He should be ready, it's the NFL.

I don't think it's an overreaction to say JC played like s***. It's not all on JC but he didn't look real comfortable although he settled down a bit.

I'm not ready to throw in the towel but i've been more than concerned for a few weeks.