We should re-sign Jason Taylor (yea i said it)

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GTripp0012
12-10-2008, 09:06 PM
i garuntee he is doing it, and i think the same myths you are talking about with carter are true for taylor. he is not turning his back on plays, thats bs. he is getting extended and doing fine. dline man dont make plays in the run game, they make assignments and the lbs make the plays. i mean get real here, carter and him are more than comparative this year in the run game and the rushing the passer game....i think you see 8.5 million and expect superman, me too but i dont think he is not doing his job, he is just not being superman but in the words of greg blache he is not doing more than he is asked. blache says thats not what this team needs.Yeah, but you don't get partial credit for just having the assignment. You have to, you know, go do it.

DieHardSkin
12-10-2008, 09:16 PM
Get rid of him!!! He's a bum...

SouperMeister
12-10-2008, 10:57 PM
I think that's a fair point but Nnamdi is a special guy. Given that Springs is likely to be gone next year, we are either going to have to resign Hall or bring someone else in. I don't trust Smoot as a number two for the season.Smoot would be plenty good enough if we had a strong D-line that could pressure the QB. A great pass rush makes average CBs look much better. That said, I do want to see D. Hall resigned - he's a good athlete, he's young, and he wants to resurrect his image. In addition, we wouldn't need to break the bank for Hall. Asomugha is going to command insane money, but Oakland will almost certainly slap the franchise tag on him.

Defensewins
12-10-2008, 11:22 PM
Yeah, but you don't get partial credit for just having the assignment. You have to, you know, go do it.

That is right.

Slingin Sammy 33
12-10-2008, 11:31 PM
i am tired of this argument that he is a liability in the run game.......seriously if you think that you are not watching the game....he does a great job of taking on the tackle and getting extended. i promise you that is his job. his job is not to make a play in the run game its to do his job so that our linbackers can make the plays. this defense is a gap to gap d and if he doesnt let guy outside of him and if he engages the tackle or tightend he has done his job. so long as they dont bury him and move on he is doing his job...coach blache talks about this all the time, not trying to do to much....if you want him to make more plays in the run game then you need to call for a new defensive coordinator, because it wont happen in this defense. most defenses in EVERY LEVEL OF FOOTBALL teach this, in fact coaches want the DLINE TO HOLD! there guy who is blocking them. almost every run defense is designed this way and jason taylor does his job just fine in the run game....for godsakes this argument can go on and on but you have to know what you are talking about and back it up if you are going to say that jason taylor is a liability in the run game.........says who that knows anything about football?
I know exactly what I'm talking about. The job of the LDE in the run game is to ENGAGE the man on his inside shoulder and FIGHT PRESSURE, you even said it yourself "DLINE TO HOLD" your position, not get run to the damn sideline. On any off-tackle play or stretch play the LDE is key to squeezing down the running lanes. If he can't do that, you're leaving huge holes to run through. Obviously the LDE shouldn't get hooked, but if he's fighting pressure and maintaining outside position that shouldn't be an issue. If he's doubled, then that frees up an LB to make the play and hold contain. JT has been a RDE his whole career, he's proto-typical for that position, hence his past success there. He's not an LDE who is normally bigger and stronger, also the technique is different because there are normally more double teams at LDE and many teams run more to the offensive right.

Before you question what someone's talking about get your facts straight and make sure you're up on your football knowledge and D-Line techniques. Listening to a Blache presser vs. actually coaching are two different things.

GusFrerotte
12-10-2008, 11:34 PM
Come on people, you gotta be kidding me. This guy's days as a beast on D are long over with. Acquiring him is like when we acquired Deion Sanders or Bruce Smith on the downward spiral of their respective careers. Deion what gave us 2-3 picks? Bruce was somewhat productive, but we could have signed a more viable younger long term option for what we paid him. We need to draft our defensive linemen. There are always some nice hungry DEs or DTs coming out of the college ranks every year. Let the guy(Taylor) play through his contract and let him retire. His best days are behind him and he is only here to get one more big payday before he retires. Snyder's stupidity seems to know no bounds.

skinsnut
12-11-2008, 10:54 AM
Taylor is the Redskins bust of the year....cut him as soon as you can.
I bet Phillip Daniels could play better than him now...and remember....he's on injured reserve.

Not to mention we gave the Dolphins a 2nd and a 6th rounder.
The 2nd rounder would have probably been the ideal pick for a young DE...were screwed.
Thanks for sucking Jason.
Parcels made the Skins Front Office look like idiots...ugh

redskinsrob
12-11-2008, 11:39 AM
I think Dancing With The Stars made him light on his toes.

An offseason of strickly football conditioning will take care of that.

Defensewins
12-11-2008, 12:56 PM
I know exactly what I'm talking about. The job of the LDE in the run game is to ENGAGE the man on his inside shoulder and FIGHT PRESSURE, you even said it yourself "DLINE TO HOLD" your position, not get run to the damn sideline. On any off-tackle play or stretch play the LDE is key to squeezing down the running lanes. If he can't do that, you're leaving huge holes to run through. Obviously the LDE shouldn't get hooked, but if he's fighting pressure and maintaining outside position that shouldn't be an issue. If he's doubled, then that frees up an LB to make the play and hold contain. JT has been a RDE his whole career, he's proto-typical for that position, hence his past success there. He's not an LDE who is normally bigger and stronger, also the technique is different because there are normally more double teams at LDE and many teams run more to the offensive right.

Before you question what someone's talking about get your facts straight and make sure you're up on your football knowledge and D-Line techniques. Listening to a Blache presser vs. actually coaching are two different things.

Thank you Slinging Sammy, I did not even want to waste my time. I am glad you explain it correctly.

over the mountain
12-11-2008, 01:10 PM
i agree with both hock and slingin sammy. I think JT has done a decent to good job of extending and getting vertical if a run play is trying to stretch around the corner on him and he forces the runner to cut back in (which to my knowledge would be his assignment in this play). he doesnt hld up his end every time but he does a good enough job.

But imo when you run straight at AC or JT there quickness doesnt not help them and their lack of comparative strength hurts them.

just how my uneducated non-nfl coach eyes see it.

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