Cerrato Vaguely Explains Draft Strategy (with Questionable Evidence)

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jamf
12-16-2008, 11:42 AM
Like I've said to many people before Vinny is someone who should be part of a scouting team under the supervision and direction of (a qualified) someone who is the personnel decision maker and not the actual decision maker. This job is beyond his capabilities.

Welcome!

and I agree completely!

celts32
12-16-2008, 11:56 AM
Like I've said to many people before Vinny is someone who should be part of a scouting team under the supervision and direction of (a qualified) someone who is the personnel decision maker and not the actual decision maker. This job is beyond his capabilities.

I agree but that will have to be with a different franchise becasue now that he has been given all the power here you can't very well reduce him to a scout. The only way the Redskins truely build a foundation is to show Vinny the door. Sure we will have years with VC where we win 9 or 10 games and make the playoffs, but to win year in and year out will never happen under his watch.

Otis Wonsley
12-16-2008, 12:14 PM
I agree but that will have to be with a different franchise becasue now that he has been given all the power here you can't very well reduce him to a scout. The only way the Redskins truely build a foundation is to show Vinny the door. Sure we will have years with VC where we win 9 or 10 games and make the playoffs, but to win year in and year out will never happen under his watch.

I think that I would be fine with that. Maybe I am way off here but if all things point to this aspect being the problem, I wonder if Snyder at some point makes the change. Regardless of his loyalty to Vinny, I think he gets tired of this and goes in a different direction. I mean he has tried everything else under the sun.

BrunellMVP?
12-16-2008, 12:35 PM
Vinny needs to go...he's a yes man and he's not proven to consistently draft well (in past few years) beyond lottery picks- don't toss out 2 names in the last 5 years as proof (even a broken clock is right twice a day...)

Bottom line, we are not a GOOD drafting team- this needs to change.

Oh, and bring in a GM

GoSkins!
12-16-2008, 12:37 PM
At least he is good at drafting safeties.
Taylor
Landry
Horton
Doughty

no real busts there... or could that be coaching????

GMScud
12-16-2008, 12:57 PM
I'm saying he is an idiot because he says "we don't draft based on need"

Then justifies his stupidity with made up stats.

Isn't it friggin awesome that Jason Taylor - $8M a year and a 2nd round pick - has comparable stats to the two DE's that Vinny tries to dog with his made up stats?? :doh:

firstdown
12-16-2008, 12:58 PM
People are reading this wrong. He wanted to draft a O Line but the ones we thought worth drafting were gone. So we did not draft an O Lineman just for need and that what he was saying. He has made his mistakes but what he said made sense but his delievery was not the best.

Defensewins
12-16-2008, 01:00 PM
Vinny Cerratto reminds of George W. Bush. Nobody really loves the guy. We all tolerate him because he is in power. I wonder if he can dodge a shoe like W?

44ever
12-16-2008, 01:06 PM
so in other words if we need a lineman but the best available player in the draft is a punter we now have another punter but still lack lineman. Then we trade our draft position for a over the hill lineman. Ummmmm OK I get it now.

redsk1
12-16-2008, 01:11 PM
People are reading this wrong. He wanted to draft a O Line but the ones we thought worth drafting were gone. So we did not draft an O Lineman just for need and that what he was saying. He has made his mistakes but what he said made sense but his delievery was not the best.

I'm no VC fan, but i was thinking the same thing. He's drafting on a combination of best overall and need. There was x amount of lineman he would have taken w/ the 21st pick. They were gone and he felt like the DE's at that level were not worth it. So we traded down. In the 2nd round, he felt like the WR's on the board served talent and a need. So, i see what's he doing.

I guess he felt no other lineman was worth one 2nd and he could get his guy (Rhinehart in the 3rd).

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