A 2009 Spring Dream....

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jamf
12-23-2008, 01:53 AM
Before the Redskins even think about bringing someone in, They need to figure out the identity of the offensive line and Defensive Front 7.

It's time for Bugel to step down. I wish him well, He is a legend and I flat out love the guy but just lost touch with todays game. Zorn needs to bring in his guy and decide what type of line they will be and try to get players that fill those roles.

Do they want to be a cowboys type line that is built on size and power with 350LB guards or do they want smaller more mobile guys like Denver that can go upfield and cut block linebackers.
Some big Aaron Gibson type guys wont cut it in certain systems but could excel in others.

The current Skins Oline has 5 guys with mixed talents.
The Redskins wont be successful offensively till they get 5 guys who can do the same thing well.


The same goes for the redskins Front 7 on the defense.
I honestly think the redskins organization are content with the starting Dline.
I have an issue with the talents of the linebackers.

Typically, The MLB is a solid run stopper who can go sideline to sideline. We are fortunate to have one of the best. They need to decide what they want as outside linebackers. McIntosh is a quick smaller guy who can get in coverage but can get lost in the run game. Blades filled in for washington and did well in run support but was a liability in coverage. In my opinion he is Fletchers replacement at MLB and I think he will be a good one.
At outsidelinebacker, He was overmatched.

The redskins need to decide if they want larger linebackers that can plug gaps and destroy pulling guards or if they want smaller speed demons that can get around blockers and put pressure on the offense.
With our front four mostly filling gaps and not putting pressure, I want to see the redskins pickup a good blitzing linebacker that can replace Washington. In general, I want them to bring in fast linebackers that can always chase down a play.


There is no way to complete the overhaul in one year but I think it's something Zorn will have to do if he is going to be a successful coach.

SBXVII
12-23-2008, 09:20 AM
^we need youth at the D-line. All our lineman that are older then dirt which may only be 2 have some kind of problem. The second problem I see is they are either over sized DE meaning they are slower or they are undersized DT which I think they have problems getting a good push to collapse a pocket. If the line is solely going to stop the run then lets get some people who can collapse a pocket while trying to stop the run. Then other QB's will not be able to escape what little rush we have.

itvnetop
12-23-2008, 09:29 AM
You must be a USC fan. I'm not a huge fan of Cushing or Mathews they remind me of a more hyped Dallas Sartz and they have virtually the same stats and measurables.

Dude, Sartz played with smarts in college- not much athletic ability. Cush is the real deal- everyone is talking about Rey Rey, but Brian is definitely more consistent. All of our LB'rs are super athletic and play sideline to sideline with a nasty streak. Watch the Rose Bowl on New Year's day and see Cush eat the Baby Lions for lunch.

holcknowsbest
12-23-2008, 04:04 PM
You must be a USC fan. I'm not a huge fan of Cushing or Mathews they remind me of a more hyped Dallas Sartz and they have virtually the same stats and measurables.

you must not watch them play football? thats ok but comparing those two with dallas sartz is a serious mistake and shows me that you dont know talent when you see it. sartz didnt walk in the door at usc in the hieghts of the programs history and start like cushing.....sartz was not 253 pounds and didnt run a 4.6 forty. mathews you could argue but this kid can rush the passer and is an all around play maker......sartz was neither of these guys esspecially cushing.......i think you should look at what you said and wonder why you are comparing sartz to cushing.....the only reason is they went usc, and cushing started over him as an 18 year old freshman.....but really i am not a usc fan just a huge fan of defense and talented ones at that.

holcknowsbest
12-23-2008, 04:09 PM
Before the Redskins even think about bringing someone in, They need to figure out the identity of the offensive line and Defensive Front 7.

It's time for Bugel to step down. I wish him well, He is a legend and I flat out love the guy but just lost touch with todays game. Zorn needs to bring in his guy and decide what type of line they will be and try to get players that fill those roles.

Do they want to be a cowboys type line that is built on size and power with 350LB guards or do they want smaller more mobile guys like Denver that can go upfield and cut block linebackers.
Some big Aaron Gibson type guys wont cut it in certain systems but could excel in others.

The current Skins Oline has 5 guys with mixed talents.
The Redskins wont be successful offensively till they get 5 guys who can do the same thing well.


The same goes for the redskins Front 7 on the defense.
I honestly think the redskins organization are content with the starting Dline.
I have an issue with the talents of the linebackers.

Typically, The MLB is a solid run stopper who can go sideline to sideline. We are fortunate to have one of the best. They need to decide what they want as outside linebackers. McIntosh is a quick smaller guy who can get in coverage but can get lost in the run game. Blades filled in for washington and did well in run support but was a liability in coverage. In my opinion he is Fletchers replacement at MLB and I think he will be a good one.
At outsidelinebacker, He was overmatched.

The redskins need to decide if they want larger linebackers that can plug gaps and destroy pulling guards or if they want smaller speed demons that can get around blockers and put pressure on the offense.
With our front four mostly filling gaps and not putting pressure, I want to see the redskins pickup a good blitzing linebacker that can replace Washington. In general, I want them to bring in fast linebackers that can always chase down a play.


There is no way to complete the overhaul in one year but I think it's something Zorn will have to do if he is going to be a successful coach.

agree with a lot.......but if we are counting on blades to be mlb then we are in a huge disagreement....post on here when that guy gets off a block to make a tackle within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage or tackle for loss.....he is a back up at best, in fact he is replacable in the next two drafts, talent level very low in my opinion.

RMSkins
12-23-2008, 05:22 PM
you must not watch them play football? thats ok but comparing those two with dallas sartz is a serious mistake and shows me that you dont know talent when you see it. sartz didnt walk in the door at usc in the hieghts of the programs history and start like cushing.....sartz was not 253 pounds and didnt run a 4.6 forty. mathews you could argue but this kid can rush the passer and is an all around play maker......sartz was neither of these guys esspecially cushing.......i think you should look at what you said and wonder why you are comparing sartz to cushing.....the only reason is they went usc, and cushing started over him as an 18 year old freshman.....but really i am not a usc fan just a huge fan of defense and talented ones at that.
Thats funny because I just went back and looked at Cushing's and Sartz's stats and measurables and they're virtually the same, with Sartz being much more productive in many of the categories. By the way Cushing only started over Sartz that one year because Sartz was injured, nice try though. I understand that you can't just go by stats and that many scouts see Cushing as being a better prospect than Sartz but i'm just showing you how easily comparable the two players are. I'm just not sold on Cushing at all I just think that he's a hyped up USC Linebacker who is a benefactor of a great defensive scheme.

Dallas Sartz 6'5" 240 lbs. 4.58 40 (Pro Day results)
Final College Stats: 194 TCKS 22.5 TFL 12.5 SCKS 16 PD 2 INT

Brian Cushing 6'3" 255 lbs. 4.75 40
Final College Stats: 171 TCKS 26.5 TFL 8 SCKS 12 PD 1 INT

Sources:
Brian Cushing | USC Scouting Report - 2009 NFL Draft Prospect (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/olb/Brian-Cushing.php)
Player Bio: Dallas Sartz :: Football (http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/sartz_dallas00.html)
Dallas Sartz | Southern Cal, OLB : 2007 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=15700&draftyear=2007&genpos=OLB)
usctrojans.com - Football (http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2006-2007/teamcume.html) (Dallas Sartz 2006 Stats)
usctrojans.com - Football (http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2008-2009/teamcume.html) (Brian Cushing 2008 Stats)

Dirtbag59
12-23-2008, 05:33 PM
Thats funny because I just went back and looked at Cushing's and Sartz's stats and measurables and they're virtually the same, with Sartz being much more productive in many of the categories. By the way Cushing only started over Sartz that one year because Sartz was injured, nice try though. I understand that you can't just go by stats and that many scouts see Cushing as being a better prospect than Sartz but i'm just showing you how easily comparable the two players are. I'm just not sold on Cushing at all I just think that he's a hyped up USC Linebacker who is a benefactor of a great defensive scheme.

Dallas Sartz 6'5" 240 lbs. 4.58 40 (Pro Day results)
Final College Stats: 194 TCKS 22.5 TFL 12.5 SCKS 16 PD 2 INT

Brian Cushing 6'3" 255 lbs. 4.75 40
Final College Stats: 171 TCKS 26.5 TFL 8 SCKS 12 PD 1 INT

Sources:
Brian Cushing | USC Scouting Report - 2009 NFL Draft Prospect (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/olb/Brian-Cushing.php)
Player Bio: Dallas Sartz :: Football (http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/sartz_dallas00.html)
Dallas Sartz*|*Southern Cal,*OLB*:*2007 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=15700&draftyear=2007&genpos=OLB)
usctrojans.com - Football (http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2006-2007/teamcume.html) (Dallas Sartz 2006 Stats)
usctrojans.com - Football (http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2008-2009/teamcume.html) (Brian Cushing 2008 Stats)

I'd be skeptical of pre-combine and pro-day numbers. A lot of those 40 times are estimates. Plus it's obvious Cushing has something that Startz doesn't, my guess is part of the reasons he's grading out as a first rounder is because he has a higher football IQ. Though I'm willing to bet that come April Cushing will be a 2nd or 3rd round pick even if he's still graded as a late first rounder.

RMSkins
12-23-2008, 05:42 PM
I'd be skeptical of pre-combine and pro-day numbers. A lot of those 40 times are estimates. Plus it's obvious Cushing has something that Startz doesn't, my guess is part of the reasons he's grading out as a first rounder is because he has a higher football IQ. Though I'm willing to bet that come April Cushing will be a 2nd or 3rd round pick even if he's still graded as a late first rounder.
You're right about being skeptical of pre-combine results, but it's hard for me to imagine Cushing running a 4.58 40. Also, Sartz was known for his cerebral play and great football IQ, so I wouldn't say that's the reason why Cushing's grading out better. I definitely don't think Cushing is worth more then a third round pick and that's probably where he will end up getting picked after the juniors declare.

GTripp0012
12-23-2008, 06:05 PM
I think the Skins need an impact player in free agency. One guy. Not a bunch of mid-level guys signed to contracts that hurt us in the future, while we see very little increase in talent now. I think Terrell Suggs, Albert Haynesworth, Julius Peppers, Jordan Gross all fit the profile, but don't chase a bunch of these guys. Pick one of them, make him an offer he can't refuse, sign him in the first three days of free agency, and be done with it. No trying to rebuild a core through free agency. Just one guy to take us to the next level.

RMSkins
12-23-2008, 06:09 PM
I think the Skins need an impact player in free agency. One guy. Not a bunch of mid-level guys signed to contracts that hurt us in the future, while we see very little increase in talent now. I think Terrell Suggs, Albert Haynesworth, Julius Peppers, Jordan Gross all fit the profile, but don't chase a bunch of these guys. Pick one of them, make him an offer he can't refuse, sign him in the first three days of free agency, and be done with it. No trying to rebuild a core through free agency. Just one guy to take us to the next level.
No Karlos Dansby? I think he would be a great addition to our defense.

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