Will Jason Campbell return?

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Coff
05-15-2009, 09:38 AM
13 td's as a career high in a year. Last year he didn't throw for more than 2 td's once. He's been in the league 5 years. He's been a starter for 2.5 of those years. Half his career is over before he ever even took that big step forward. He's taken little steps, every year. His TD curve will have him throwing 25 td's when he's 33.

He's thrown for more than 2 td's in a game once, against the Eagles 2 years ago. And in 36 total games, he's thrown more int's than td's in 9 games. That's 25% of his starts girls.

At best, he's turning into a solid game manager. With his int's per game going down. One grain of salt in that statistic, could the first 8 games of last year been an anomaly. In my opinion, that's two significant a portion of his total games played to be the case. So, he's a game manager. And one last positive to support that concept. His qb rating continues to improve with games.

Bottom line, he's a first round draft pick that's probably turning into Trent Dilfer.


True, but let's not underestimate the importance of game management. Campbell isn't losing games for us at this point, which is what a lot of back-ups do when they're thrust in because of a QB controversey. Until the Skins can draft and develop a better QB, a process that will take a number of years, I think we need to rely on JC as our QB; we've simply invested too much in him and he's shown the temerity necessary to play in a demanding market like DC.

Frankly I'd take JC over any QB that another team is desperately trying to get rid of (ie Cutler). JC doesn't carry baggage, and that's a beautiful thing.

Paintrain
05-15-2009, 09:40 AM
13 td's as a career high in a year. Last year he didn't throw for more than 2 td's once. He's been in the league 5 years. He's been a starter for 2.5 of those years. Half his career is over before he ever even took that big step forward. He's taken little steps, every year. His TD curve will have him throwing 25 td's when he's 33.

He's thrown for more than 2 td's in a game once, against the Eagles 2 years ago. And in 36 total games, he's thrown more int's than td's in 9 games. That's 25% of his starts girls.

At best, he's turning into a solid game manager. With his int's per game going down. One grain of salt in that statistic, could the first 8 games of last year been an anomaly. In my opinion, that's two significant a portion of his total games played to be the case. So, he's a game manager. And one last positive to support that concept. His qb rating continues to improve with games.

Bottom line, he's a first round draft pick that's probably turning into Trent Dilfer.
That would be Super Bowl winning QB Trent Dilfer to you. Ultimate 'game manager', great defense, solid running game..

Look, there's nobody that can legitimately tell you that Campbell has lived up to all of the hopes and dreams of Redskins fans from a first round draft pick QB but the legions of fans who have given up on a QB that has less than 40 starts and has continually improved his game is ridiculous.

Call them excuses if you want to but to expect lights out performances from someone who's had 7 systems in 8 years, multiple QB coaches tinkering with his mechanics to fit their system not to mention our less than stellar receiving group then of course you're going to be disappointed. What he's endured in his first few years in the league is unprecedented.

DBUCHANON101
05-15-2009, 09:40 AM
My only sadness is that we have to wait another season to replace him.
I said before i hope he breaks out and proves me wrong but i just dont see it.

irish
05-15-2009, 09:44 AM
469 281 3301 59.9 7.0 17 3.6 15 3.2 65 46 284 80.1
506 315 3245 62.3 6.4 13 2.6 6 1.2 67 38 266 84.3

What does all that mean? I assume its each players numbers from last season. These numbers are nice but the only thing that really matters is that one QB lead his team to a SB win while the other hasnt won anything in his 5 years in the league.

I agree with the other post, if JC was a 3rd rounder I dont think we'd be having this conversation but he wasnt. Whether its his fault or not its his reality. I think the best we can hope for with JC is that he does become a decent game manager because he will never be a game changer.

DBUCHANON101
05-15-2009, 09:46 AM
I cant name one Saint WR other than Colston and they led the league in Offense. NO running game, NO great Oline.

I love how the JC faithful downplay our team as a excuse for him.. We have CP who was a top rusher in the league for most of the season. We have Cooley who is a top 5 TE. We have Moss who is still a good WR and can be a game breaker if he had a good QB throwing him the ball.

Paintrain
05-15-2009, 09:47 AM
My only sadness is that we have to wait another season to replace him.
I said before i hope he breaks out and proves me wrong but i just dont see it.

I really don't get this. What has he done to make you so eager to replace him? What do you think another QB that we could have had this season via free agency or trade (since we tried for Cutler and didn't meet Denver's request he's out of the consideration) would you rather have back there? If your QB of choice, whomever it is, were back there at QB what results do you think they'd deliver that Campbell has not/will not?

DBUCHANON101
05-15-2009, 09:49 AM
I really don't get this. What has he done to make you so eager to replace him?

The real question is, what has he done for us NOT to want to replace him???

SC Skins Fan
05-15-2009, 09:49 AM
13 td's as a career high in a year. Last year he didn't throw for more than 2 td's once. He's been in the league 5 years. He's been a starter for 2.5 of those years. Half his career is over before he ever even took that big step forward. He's taken little steps, every year. His TD curve will have him throwing 25 td's when he's 33.

He's thrown for more than 2 td's in a game once, against the Eagles 2 years ago. And in 36 total games, he's thrown more int's than td's in 9 games. That's 25% of his starts girls.

At best, he's turning into a solid game manager. With his int's per game going down. One grain of salt in that statistic, could the first 8 games of last year been an anomaly. In my opinion, that's two significant a portion of his total games played to be the case. So, he's a game manager. And one last positive to support that concept. His qb rating continues to improve with games.

Bottom line, he's a first round draft pick that's probably turning into Trent Dilfer.

Just using your (random) metrics:

In his first 36 starts he threw for more than 2 tds in a game three times. In those 36 games he threw more ints than tds twelve times. That's 33% of his starts ladies! At best he's a 1st round pick who is turning into .... Ben Roethlisberger.

SmootSmack
05-15-2009, 09:51 AM
What does all that mean? I assume its each players numbers from last season. These numbers are nice but the only thing that really matters is that one QB lead his team to a SB win while the other hasnt won anything in his 5 years in the league.

I think it says that the gap between SB Winning QB Roethlisberger and 8-8 QB Jason Campbell is much smaller than some think.

DBUCHANON101
05-15-2009, 09:53 AM
At best he's a 1st round pick who is turning into .... Ben Roethlisberger.

Are you serious?? Big Ben wins games.. Thats the difference.What was the streak Pittsburgh went on? But this isnt a fair deal. Big Ben is in a power run O and its not all on him. The WCO goes as the QB goes and with JC, we wont go far.IMO

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