I think this might be our answer for OLB... (Greg Ellis?)

he is more of a DE in a 4-3 than a OLB. But he is also a friggan COWGIRL so no f'n way!! I think i just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

20.5 sacks over the last 2 years isnt productive?

50 tackles over 2 seasons is not...and last I checked, we needs an OLB, not a DE.

he is more of a DE in a 4-3 than a OLB. But he is also a friggan COWGIRL so no f'n way!! I think i just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

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....and your point is? I know its a 3-4 and the OLB rush more than a 4-3 but 20.5 sacks over a two year span for any player is great at this level.

Im not saying hes a great superstar player. Im just saying when someone says Ellis isnt very productive when he had 20.5 sacks over a 2 year span is laughable.

Don't get me wrong, I can definitely respect your point. You need to keep in mind my initial points in my initial post. He had a whopping 3.5 sacks over 14 games last year if not for the eagles and giants game. He is 34 and his production even in sacks was cut dramatically! He would not fit well in our system, and to trade ANY pick away for him would be stupid IMO. Time to keep our picks, and not trade them for oldies. Do you really want a guy that would likely get us 25 tackles and 3 sacks???

Who's that old ex-steeler LB who was awesome last year for the Dolphins?

I'm not saying I'm in favor of trading for this guy...I'm not...but the point that just because you are older that you suck isn't always true...I think some of us are just a bit gunshy..thats all

Who's that old ex-steeler LB who was awesome last year for the Dolphins?

I'm not saying I'm in favor of trading for this guy...I'm not...but the point that just because you are older that you suck isn't always true...I think some of us are just a bit gunshy..thats all

You're thinking of Joey Porter.

You're thinking of Joey Porter.

And he was 31 last year, not 34. Not to mention how the Dolphins used him as opposed to how we would use ellis.

Don't get me wrong, I can definitely respect your point. You need to keep in mind my initial points in my initial post. He had a whopping 3.5 sacks over 14 games last year if not for the eagles and giants game. He is 34 and his production even in sacks was cut dramatically! He would not fit well in our system, and to trade ANY pick away for him would be stupid IMO. Time to keep our picks, and not trade them for oldies. Do you really want a guy that would likely get us 25 tackles and 3 sacks???

I said in a earlier post I wouldnt trade for him unless it was a low pick. I wouldnt go trading the farm for a guy who is probably going to be released. Odds are though we wouldnt trade for him since he isnt a great fit here. I agree with all of that.

I dont like when people take stats and break them down. While its a great tidbit that he only had 3.5 sacks over 14 games the bottom line is he had 8 sacks last year. Hell id rather have a LB who had big games vs division rivals. A drop from 12.5 to 8 isnt dramatic imo.

Ellis is still a player who can make plays and it shouldnt take him too long to find another team if hes released. It just seems to me people look at his age and say he must be on the decline. Maybe he will hit that decline but as of right now with 20.5 sacks over the last 2 years he still can get to the QB as far as I know.

We had chances to upgrade our LB postion in the draft and instead we went CB. at the time of that pick MLB Phillips from TCU was there,the kid is a tackling machine. OLB McKinzie From South Florida was there,very good player taken by the Pats. Too bad he was injured.

50 tackles over 2 seasons is not...and last I checked, we needs an OLB, not a DE.

No offense but if you read the whole thread and all my posts you would realize I know we need a OLB and not a DE.