Brian Orakpo
05-23-2009, 03:02 PM
I got answer to the OLB problem...
4. The Washington Redskins have a completely different plan for first-round choice Brian Orakpo than some people expected. At the Redskins' minicamp, Orakpo was used as the starting strongside linebacker. The plan is for him to blitz from the strong side on first and second downs. On passing downs, he will line up at right defensive end next to Albert Haynesworth, the former Tennessee Titans star who appeared dominating at his first Redskins camp. Orakpo was drafted to rush the passer. The surprise is that he won't just be doing it from a defensive end position.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=4135310
unleash the hounds!!
Ever since the Skins have put Orakpo at LB in Minicamp I have had mixed feelings on it. While I feel he can be successful id rather him play as a 3 down end. Im not sure if he will be blitzing on all 1st and 2nd downs though like the article suggests at LB. It seems like the Skins are just filling a need be throwing Orakpo at LB instead of looking at the long term success of their 1st round pick by playing him at the position he played in at college as a DE.
Honestly id rather him just play RDE all 3 downs and let him grow into the position at the NFL level and reak havoc along the defensive line with Albert Haynesworth.
vallin21
05-23-2009, 06:18 PM
So you are saying the Skins should never trade or sign a player who is a ex-cowboy because previous moves havent worked out?
Sometimes I think peoples hate for the Cowboys blinds there judgement. I actually think if DeMarcus Ware somehow hit the FA market some Skins fans would be saying I dont want that Cowgirl trash.
Yes I am saying that. Bro "if" that ever happened then I would admit I was wrong, but it hasn't. It's like people continue to play with fire and have 3rd degree burns. (not that extreme but you know what I'm getting at) You're probably the same person that wanted Deion, Alvin Harper, and Brandon Noble. And Look what that did for us....
GTripp0012
05-23-2009, 06:44 PM
So we shouldn't have signed Demetric Evans back in 2004?
Brian Orakpo
05-23-2009, 06:58 PM
Yes I am saying that. Bro "if" that ever happened then I would admit I was wrong, but it hasn't. It's like people continue to play with fire and have 3rd degree burns. (not that extreme but you know what I'm getting at) You're probably the same person that wanted Deion, Alvin Harper, and Brandon Noble. And Look what that did for us....
Play with fire? Teams try the best they can to get the talent needed to win. I dont care what team he last played for. He could of played for the Satan All-Stars and id still sign him if he gave my team a better chance to win.
I didnt have a problem with Deion Sanders at the time. Hes probably one of the top 3 corners to ever play the game. So yeah back in 2000 I didnt mind having a trio of Champ Bailey, Deion Sanders, and Darrell Green. The only Skins fans who didnt want Deion were the ones holding a grudge for all the times he whipped our ass over the years.
As for Alvin Harper I didnt have any opinion one way or the other. I didnt think he was anything special. He did play 2 seasons for Tampa Bay before us so it wasnt like he came right from the Cowboys here.
Brandon Noble had knee problems but when he played for us he played well. He even won the Ed Block Courage Award after coming back from his first knee injury with us. I wanted Noble and had no problems with that move. You cant predict knee injuries they could happen to anyone. He probably would of came back and played some more for us if he didnt get a staph infection that ended his career after his 2nd knee injury.
Brian Orakpo
05-23-2009, 07:02 PM
So we shouldn't have signed Demetric Evans back in 2004?
Damn dude great post. I forgot Evans had last played for the Cowboys before signing with the Redskins.
I was trying to think of different players and that one skipped my mind.
vallin21
05-23-2009, 07:26 PM
Play with fire? Teams try the best they can to get the talent needed to win. I dont care what team he last played for. He could of played for the Satan All-Stars and id still sign him if he gave my team a better chance to win.
I didnt have a problem with Deion Sanders at the time. Hes probably one of the top 3 corners to ever play the game. So yeah back in 2000 I didnt mind having a trio of Champ Bailey, Deion Sanders, and Darrell Green. The only Skins fans who didnt want Deion were the ones holding a grudge for all the times he whipped our ass over the years. (Excuse, he was washed up, and he stole money from Synder)
As for Alvin Harper I didnt have any opinion one way or the other. I didnt think he was anything special. He did play 2 seasons for Tampa Bay before us so it wasnt like he came right from the Cowboys here. ( That's pointless. His longest tenure was with the Boys, he's a Cowboy)
Brandon Noble had knee problems but when he played for us he played well. He even won the Ed Block Courage Award after coming back from his first knee injury with us. I wanted Noble and had no problems with that move. You cant predict knee injuries they could happen to anyone. He probably would of came back and played some more for us if he didnt get a staph infection that ended his career after his 2nd knee injury.( True, you can't predict knee injures, but when he was healthy he didn't do shit. Another excuse)
What's you're point? All those players were terrible with us. Don't make excuses for each player I listed, if you're trying to make an point just make it. Yeah Evans was good, but he was a cheap FA that had no expectations, all of these guys (Harper, Sanders, and Noble) were high-priced and big named FA's that people had high expectations for. Just admit it: NO COWBOY HAS COME HERE AND PERFORMED AT A HIGH LEVEL.
Brian Orakpo
05-23-2009, 09:01 PM
( True, you can't predict knee injures, but when he was healthy he didn't do shit. Another excuse)
What's you're point? All those players were terrible with us. Don't make excuses for each player I listed, if you're trying to make an point just make it. Yeah Evans was good, but he was a cheap FA that had no expectations, all of these guys (Harper, Sanders, and Noble) were high-priced and big named FA's that people had high expectations for. Just admit it: NO COWBOY HAS COME HERE AND PERFORMED AT A HIGH LEVEL.
I disagree. Noble was a solid piece to our defensive tackle rotation. He wasnt a pro bowler but he wasnt "shit" either. I dont think I was making excuses for Noble. Im just pointing out when he did play for us he was solid. I dont think knee injuries should go against him.
Im not making excuses for each player you listed. Where did I make "excuses" for Deion or Harper? I only suggested alot of Skins fans wanted Deion. I said I had no opinion about Harper at the time we signed him. I didnt think he was anything special so I had no opinion good or bad at the time. You said I probably wanted all three of those guys. I admit I did want two of them. I never made any excuses for any of them though. At the sametime Harper and Noble werent brought in to be superstars.
I know no one had high expectations for Evans but if you had high expectations for Harper or Noble then you either didnt watch them play before we signed them or you overhype players. Harper didnt do nothing in two seasons in TB before he came to Washington and Noble was solid but not a great player.
The only point I was trying to make is just because certain Cowboy players havent worked out in the past doesnt mean we should never bring in a Cowboy player again. If you honestly hate the Cowboys so much that you dont want to try to improve your own football team then you have some serious issues. Its like you think ex-cowboys to this franchise are like the Madden curse. No offense but the only player who the Skins have brought in in the last 10 years from the Cowboys who was suppose to be something special was Deion Sanders.
(oh as for Harper playing two season in TB before he came to DC. The only reason I brought it up was because I thought we were talking about players who came from Dallas to Washington. Since he played last for Tampa Bay I didnt understand why he was brought into the discussion.)
Stuck in TX
05-24-2009, 01:39 AM
way too old, injury prone, and not something we need here. IR/the training room will already be busy this year with the likes of our geriatric backup DE's and Griffin.
nyredskinsfan
05-24-2009, 09:58 AM
You want to trade with the god damn cowboys?
Exactly