Jason Campbell gets his mind right for the season..

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Redskins_P
06-29-2009, 05:12 PM
I think Latino NFL players make the best kickers. Zendejas!

53Fan
06-29-2009, 05:20 PM
Is this serious? I don't remember the Seahawks trying to boot Hasselbeck after the 2003 playoff loss. He went to the pro bowl and super bowl two years later. Jake Delhomme has yet to win a playoff game since 2005 and he just got a 5 year extension. Alex Smith, whose career highlights include winning 7 games with the Niners three years ago, is still competiting for his teams starting position in 2009. Eli Manning, for all of his struggles in his development, won a ring in his fourth year as a starter, and might get the biggest deal in league history. Kyle Orton has been one of the worst QBs in the NFL over the last four years, and he's still a team's QB of the future. Hell, Drew Bledsoe's career lasted another 8 years after he stopped playing well.

You see, that's the big picture. The race card got played in the abscence of an actual logical reason for the team's actions. You look at all the names above, and you do have to wonder that if Campbell's plight is just the status quo for an NFL quarterback, what's different about the guy's listed above.

The team can be not sold on anybody they want to. There's nothing wrong with making a change to improve at a position in March. The problem, of course, with telling your guy tht you're not sold on him...and then not really having a solid foundation for the belief is that you come off like someone with preconceived biases.

Now, I'm not saying Campbell should have gone there, or that going there makes anything different, or that life is fair, or that he's even entitled to a fair shake at his profession. I am saying that the evidence seems to strengthen his assessment, though it's still a case of correllation not equalling causation.

I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head GTripp.

Dirtbag59
06-29-2009, 06:12 PM
McNabb played his first complete season last year since 2003. That's why he sometimes gets blown off as not a top tier QB. It’s not because he's African American. Another comparison I think of is pitchers in baseball. There are a much higher percentage of white pitchers then comparable to the makeup of the other positions in baseball. How many white running backs are there? Just seems like certain skill sets suite certain races differently.

Baseball though might have more of an excuse because right now it mostly consist of white and latino players. I had a teammate back in high school that played baseball during the spring and he used to joke about how he was "the only brother out there." Anyway I think Joe Morgan was right when he said that most black kids are choosing to play football and basketball instead of baseball.

WaldSkins
06-29-2009, 06:21 PM
I agree that there is that stigma left over from the old days, but I think it’s quickly put to rest when a qb whatever color makes the correct read, or obviously knows his play book. And look at college. There are just flat out less black qb's in D1 college, so of course there will be less in the NFL. Maybe it stems from college, I dont know.

And think about baseball why are there more white pitchers percentage wise to the makeup of the rest of the league. Maybe white people just have better arm strength, accuracy, or touch for some reason. It’s a touchy subject so probably isn’t that well studied.

Maybe Jason Campbell just isn't that good of a quarterback?

dgack
06-29-2009, 06:28 PM
I have always felt that JC look at himself as the leader of the O and I'm not sure why you think CP was the leader. As far as I know JC makes the calles in the huddle and directs the players and not CP. I think your confusing Portis off the field and the Portis on the field which are two different things.

No, they really aren't. Everyone knows the QB directs the offense, but that's not the same thing as being the leader of a group of men. I certainly can understand WHY he wasn't so vocal and authoritative last year, but it's just good that he now feels ready to take that command.

Jason probably felt that it wasn't "his team" yet before now, and I think now that he's been somewhat put on notice by Snyder and had his abilities questioned, he's fired up and isn't going to be taking any sh*t from anyone.

This, in a nutshell is why Gilbert Arenas is still (sadly, in my opinion as I'm a big Agent Zero fan) a 2nd tier player. He's the first one to defer to Jamison and claim he's not the leader of the team. Say what you want about LeWhine, Kobe, or even D-Wade, but all of those guys believe the team is theirs and they are the guys calling the shots.

I think on a professional football team you want that guy to be your QB, and I think for the first time Jason is projecting that kind of attitude.

vallin21
06-29-2009, 06:30 PM
Someone please expain why the race card is being used on/for JC?:doh: JC is a QB trying to lead our team to Miami. All of the race crap is pointless, If he was a white QB we'd still be having the same discussion. He just needs to not force throws, gain some accuracy, and take shots downfield (although part of that is Zorn). If he does that I see us winning no less than 10 games.

dgack
06-29-2009, 06:35 PM
Someone please expain why the race card is being used on/for JC?:doh:

Because he's black and some journalist knew it would stir controversy to ask a black QB whose owner has treated him pretty poorly in the offseason how he's feeling about it.

I think it's hilarious that Jason gave the most politically correct, middle-of-the-road answer a guy could give and people are still flipping out about what is a total red herring, though.

vallin21
06-29-2009, 07:08 PM
Because he's black and some journalist knew it would stir controversy to ask a black QB whose owner has treated him pretty poorly in the offseason how he's feeling about it.

I think it's hilarious that Jason gave the most politically correct, middle-of-the-road answer a guy could give and people are still flipping out about what is a total red herring, though.

Exactly we have people flipping out about his race and crap. Granted back in the day blacks QB's didn't have the same opportunities as us, but it's a new day and this is JC's last year if he doesn't improve, (the FO made that clear) he's out the door.

GusFrerotte
06-29-2009, 08:14 PM
Thanks for the fine article on JC, Paintrain.

Every time I hear from JC I become more and more impressed by his classiness and attitude. I am looking forward to a big year from him, although certainly I am fueled by homer optimism.

As for the part about African-American quarterbacks, I think JC is right on. Sad to say, it seems that there is still a double-standard regarding qb's and race. McNabb seems like the poster child for this reality. Notice that historically there are relatively few African-American starters at qb compared to other positions and, when an African-American does start, he is usually a magnet for criticism. The qb position is one of many examples that we still have not realized racial equality in this country, although we do seem to be moving in that direction.


Oh give me a break dude. Racial equality? Blacks make up over 80% of the NFL while only 14% of the total US population. Once an athlete leaves the PC confines of the pathetic American university system it is all about getting the job done in the private sector(NFL). Your whole equality thing is basically saying you want more black qbs just for the sake of having black qbs. That isn't going to happen in the private sector where the bottom line is money and winning and the PC racial quota is already heavily askewed towards minorities. I mean what, you aren't going to be happy til 80% of NFL qbs are black? I mean come on. Do you know how many white kids that make all state in HS football at the skilled positions get stuck playing for Div II schools just for the fact they are white and hearing lame ass excuses like "they don't have loose hips", etc. Enough already!!!!

NYCskinfan82
06-29-2009, 08:28 PM
I hope he succeeds he deserves damm the skins deserve it he's a class guy and by his actions deserves to be the face of this franchise, if the supporting cast step up and stay healthy for the season mainly OL and young WR JC should be good.

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