Eli Manning vs Jason Campbell

They are both average players, though Manning was slightly above average in 2008.

Doing it by Football Outsiders DVOA over the past three seasons:

Manning:

2006 - Manning (3.9%), Campbell (-0.7%)
2007 - Manning (-13.1%), Campbell (-12.3%)
2008 - Manning (19.7%), Campbell (8.3%)

Saying Campbell compares favorably to Eli Manning is not saying Campbell is a great player, it is saying Manning is far from a great player.

Who care's, thats like comparing Randel El to Brandon Lloyd. I dont really see the point.

Cut the f'ing bulsh*t people, Eli is much better than JC. Period!
Tell us how you really feel :)

If Asante Samuel can just manage to hold onto the ball in the Superbowl then we would be talking about Eli as one of the all time choke artists. He comes back on the next play and throws the luckiest pass in NFL history and now he'll probably go down as a clutch player.

In terms of skills the two players are somewhat similar although Eli has certainly had a more talented team. That being said, Eli has clearly underperformed as the number 1 pick. When you consider what the Giants gave up to get him, as well as the 100 million or so they are likely to spend to keep him this year, JC is clearly the better value, for whatever that's worth.

LOL.............yeah BUT he didn't.You can find one thing in every game,if the Pats D holds on to Eli, if the ref blows the whisle,if,if,if Tyree drops the ball...............but if didn't happen.I'll take an"under performing" #1 ...who can take a team as young as the Giants with the changes he keeps having thrown at him...anytime rather then some loser who has good stats and can't win a pressure game to save his life(not JC).
The team must believe in the QB ....the Giants do,do the rest of the Skins believe in JC?

No S**t. My sentiments exactly.


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LOL.............yeah BUT he didn't.You can find one thing in every game,if the Pats D holds on to Eli, if the ref blows the whisle,if,if,if Tyree drops the ball...............but if didn't happen.I'll take an"under performing" #1 ...who can take a team as young as the Giants with the changes he keeps having thrown at him...anytime rather then some loser who has good stats and can't win a pressure game to save his life(not JC).
The team must believe in the QB ....the Giants do,do the rest of the Skins believe in JC?

From what I have read, the players do. The front office, however, seems to be taking a "wait and see" approach.

LOL.............yeah BUT he didn't.You can find one thing in every game,if the Pats D holds on to Eli, if the ref blows the whisle,if,if,if Tyree drops the ball...............but if didn't happen.I'll take an"under performing" #1 ...who can take a team as young as the Giants with the changes he keeps having thrown at him...anytime them some loser who has good stats and can't win a pressure game to save his life(not JC).
The team must believe in the QB ....the Giants do,do the rest of the Skins believe in JC?

I haven't heard or seen anything to make me think they don't. Giantone has a point. You can always point to different things in a game that would have changed the outcome. Eli has a ring and Jason doesn't. Doe's that mean he's a better QB though? Using that logic, Eli is better than Dan Marino ever was. I think it's too early in their careers to make a clearcut choice. Hopefully we'll at least have a little clearer picture after this year..... Or maybe we won't.

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Damn. That's scary! :)

Interceptions don't mean squat. Favre leads record books in interceptions -- and yet he's destined for the Hall of Fame and they are talking about Minnesota being considered as a Super Bowl contender if he comes back.

An interception rarely leads to a pick-six -- in fact, a deep interception is like a punt. We all know the fact that Jason Campbell has LESS interceptions means he was dumping it off instead of actually throwing downfield. I'd LOVE for Campbell to have more interceptions this year -- as a surrogate for him actually taking more chances & throwing downfield.

IN FACT, Tom Brady stats for most of his career: avg: 23-26 touchdowns, 12-14 interceptions. Statistics don't tell the whole story, but cannot be ignored. Sadly, Campbell has averaged less than a touchdown per game.

In the NFL, it's about winning. You win by points. Touchdowns clearly matter more. There's just no way you can compare Eli's stats with 60% more touchdowns and say they are similar.

I agree. 6 INTs is almost a negative when paired with only 13TDs. It's indicative of someone who plays scared and doesn't take chances.

I'd say it's close, but I give the edge to Eli. The skins blitzed the bejeezus out of Eli in the second game last year, and he threw for 305 yards (about 2 games worth of yardage for JC). Had nothing to do with his O line either. He anticipated the blitz, knew where to go with the ball and made pin-point passes before the defense could get to him. I remember being surprised how fast he was getting the ball off. The Skins took a chance Eli couldn't beat them, and it backfired. They were in his face all day, but he didn't hold onto the ball like JC has a tendency to do.

Also, I can't envision JC making a play like Eli did in the Super Bowl. I can't envision Eli doing it again either, but he did it when it mattered.

And as far as how Eli would do with the Skins personnel, I'd say he would do a couple games better than JC. We already saw what Todd Collins did the the same players JC had to work with.

All that said, I hope and think JC will have a big year, but the "haters" have every right to be critical of him. Irregarless of all the excuses, he's proven nothing yet.

Who care's, thats like comparing Randel El to Brandon Lloyd. I dont really see the point.

That was my point.

Great another what if/comparison/prediction/ranking thread. When does training camp start?