can WE now start a countdown to a new coach and qb

Absurd. Jim Zorn's offense ran up and down the field, and just didnt score because of MISTAKES by the players. I don't recall Zorn dropping any TD passes Sunday....which Devin Thomas and Mike Sellers both did. Zorn didn't fumble in the red zone either, that was Santana.
Calling for Zorn to be fired is not appropriate. His playcalling produced several long drives, and if the players didnt commit stupid mistakes, we would have scored TDs.

We won because of our D and Zorn.

Is it Zorn's fault that his 3 rookie receivers picked last year were so out of shape, hurt and immature that he they couldn't see the field? His OL was old and hurt constantly? To me last year doesn't count. Yeah, this year's offense hasn't gotten to a stellar scoring, but if you watched the game our offense moved the ball up and down the field and used many different receivers than in week 1. Yes, we have RZ problems that I believe will get worked out, to me an encouraging sign was that we used many different receivers last week, Thomas and Sellers dropped a few and I will not make excuses, Zorn made a bad call in the RZ.

Good points! But he got alot of credit when the offense was rolling last year, so you gotta take the good with the bad. Personel isnt always gonna be ideal to your gameplan, you gotta play with the hand your dealt. If these coaches were so innovative shouldnt they be able to form an attack based on what talent is available? If Thomas and Sellers catch those balls, Tana doesnt fumble, and the debacle of the RB pass(that he is now defending the call) we wouldnt be having this conversation most likely. We did move the ball like you say, so the potential is there.

Absurd. Jim Zorn's offense ran up and down the field, and just didnt score because of MISTAKES by the players. I don't recall Zorn dropping any TD passes Sunday....which Devin Thomas and Mike Sellers both did. Zorn didn't fumble in the red zone either, that was Santana.
Calling for Zorn to be fired is not appropriate. His playcalling produced several long drives, and if the players didnt commit stupid mistakes, we would have scored TDs.

We won because of our D and Zorn.


Zorn doesn't even have clock management down at this point. Snyder put him in a bad position and it looks to me like he isn't far from cracking.

If Fassel is so good why is he coaching in the UFL? Ditto for Billick. If the Redskins were to make a coaching change, my choices would be Tony Dungy or Cam Cameron.

I really don't care where they are working now. Both of their resumes crush Zorn's.

I really don't care where they are working now. Both of their resumes crush Zorn's.

Let's give Zorn a chance, you can't judge him after 2 games into the season.

Let's give Zorn a chance, you can't judge him after 2 games into the season.


I am judging him on the last 10 games and the pre-season. After we were 6-2 the league started making adjustments and Zorn has not shown the ability to counter-punch the league to date.

He deserves a chance but he is just dealing with the wrong city and fanbase to learn how to be a playcaller and head coach while on the job.

I didn't say or infer that he is a colossal failure (not sure where you are pulling that from), I said that this is the wrong town for a coach to learn on the job.

I would argue that the offense has taken a step back from Gibbs 2.0 and that an experienced offensive coach and playcaller would be scoring more points with this team.

Or Zorn as the playcaller and someone like a Fassel to be the headcoach and say "No Jim, we're not going to run an option pass on 3rd down in the red zone. Pick another play"

Or Zorn as the playcaller and someone like a Fassel to be the headcoach and say "No Jim, we're not going to run an option pass on 3rd down in the red zone. Pick another play"

Maybe Danny Smith can have playcalling veto, too!

Hey, I wonder, is that Steve Spurrier guy still available...<no, that's too bad>...well, maybe we can at least get that Heath Shuler guy back in pads...<huh, u say he was elected to WHAT?>...hmmm, i guess we are stuck with no better option, then

I really wonder what Gruden would do with this team? or atleast I have been wondering lately. Defense is pretty much set. Now if DS goes into rebuild mode at the end of this season I would like to see the Skins change to a 3-4 defense.

but Gruden would already have decent WR's, decent RB's to pick from, All he would need to focus on is getting a franchise QB and picking up O-lineman in the draft.