Where are Kelly & Thomas?

Have to say it is most likely the FO and the dumbass dealing of our first rounders of recent past for underperfroming FA's. Thomas probably should have been passed over just because of where he went to school(Michigan St). Michigan St players usually don't make it in the pros. Last guy they had that even made a tiny bit of impact was Lorenzo White and he got stuck in a RB committee in Tennessee. Kelly should have been "vetted" better, as they should not have taken a gamble on him with the bad knee. Why we take gambles on a consistent basis is beyond me, especially when most of them haven't pan out. No matter what happens after this season with regards to Zorn saving his job or packing his bags, we are stuck with 2 busts at WR. Kelly gets somewhat of a pass from missing last season, but Thomas should have improved somewhat.

How about Julian Peterson and Plaxico Burress?

Have to say it is most likely the FO and the dumbass dealing of our first rounders of recent past for underperfroming FA's. Thomas probably should have been passed over just because of where he went to school(Michigan St). Michigan St players usually don't make it in the pros. Last guy they had that even made a tiny bit of impact was Lorenzo White and he got stuck in a RB committee in Tennessee. Kelly should have been "vetted" better, as they should not have taken a gamble on him with the bad knee. Why we take gambles on a consistent basis is beyond me, especially when most of them haven't pan out. No matter what happens after this season with regards to Zorn saving his job or packing his bags, we are stuck with 2 busts at WR. Kelly gets somewhat of a pass from missing last season, but Thomas should have improved somewhat.

When was the last time we traded a first rounder for an underperforming FA?

This is a question that doesn't need endless pages of debate to answer. Look around the league and you see a shit ton of ROOKIE WRs making really significant contributions to their football team. Minn, NY, Philly all have very young guys - like 1st or 2nd year - making big plays, and I'm sure there are ample more I just don't follow enough teams to point everyone out. Meanwhile the Skins employ a WR coach who HAS NEVER DEVELOPED A SINGLE PLAYER AT THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL. I think he's been w/ us for over 5 years now. The thought should be simply mind-boggling. This is like a doctor who never diagnoses a single patient, a loan officer who never closes a single loan, a lawyer who never wins a single case. The only wide-outs who have any success w/ the Skins are guys who learned elsewhere. Hixon hasn't taught a single player in his group to run a crisp route, create separation from the defender, or position his body to block out the defender. Our young wide-outs look retarded out there but I'm saying it's not really something you can hold against them.

:laughing2 You've met my doctor haven't you? I went to him with an eye infection one time and he put on his rubber glove and told me to drop my pants. :eek:????? I call him Dr. Hixon now. He's foreign so apparently something was lost in translation. I've since started learning Korean to help diffuse any further miscommunication. I would change doctors but he has small hands which I find beneficial during my anal, I mean annual, physical.

This same critique is coming from several sources now, Cossell, ESPN and now NFL Network guys were saying the same thing yesterday.
I guess on film it is clear these two guys are not getting any separation from their defenders.
In my experiences I have found that guys that have weak or worn knees tend to have a problem cutting at full speed. I think both of these guys have had past knee problems?
I would like to see Marko get some reps with the first team in a game. These two jokers Kelly/Thomas have been given enough time to prove themselves. It is time to give someone else a try and see if it is not the QB or system and not the receivers.

I watched the game and none of our WR were getting seperation. ARE did he even get a catch? They all had trouble getting open against the Bucs Tampa 2 defense.

Have to say it is most likely the FO and the dumbass dealing of our first rounders of recent past for underperfroming FA's. Thomas probably should have been passed over just because of where he went to school(Michigan St). Michigan St players usually don't make it in the pros. Last guy they had that even made a tiny bit of impact was Lorenzo White and he got stuck in a RB committee in Tennessee. Kelly should have been "vetted" better, as they should not have taken a gamble on him with the bad knee. Why we take gambles on a consistent basis is beyond me, especially when most of them haven't pan out. No matter what happens after this season with regards to Zorn saving his job or packing his bags, we are stuck with 2 busts at WR. Kelly gets somewhat of a pass from missing last season, but Thomas should have improved somewhat.

Plaxico Burress, Andre Rison, and Mussin Mohammed WR went to Michigan ST. they all had nice NFL careers. Burress is in jail not to good for him now.

After watching the game over and analyzing the game...I found Kelly to be open quite a bit. Why he is not breaking out is a complex issue. Either JC is locked on to one reciever (mostly Moss) or the o-line just broke down. The main time that sticks in my mind is the JC interception to Moss. Kelly was open down the center of the field for a TD!!! No confidence and lack of time is why I think Kelly is due soon! As for DT I have no answer...He does not look very good!

This is a question that doesn't need endless pages of debate to answer. Look around the league and you see a shit ton of ROOKIE WRs making really significant contributions to their football team. Minn, NY, Philly all have very young guys - like 1st or 2nd year - making big plays, and I'm sure there are ample more I just don't follow enough teams to point everyone out.


In a season so far that very few things have gone right, what makes you think these rooks will step in to the limelight. Most of those other situations they have something else going for them and they step up and compliment them. Key word COMPLIMENT ! They are not doing it alone. Where as here they will have to do it basiclly alone as JC has not completely clicked yet! If things ever start to click I hope to see the young pups step there game up! But it won't happen till play calling sync with players execution.

A list of well-known wide receivers who didn't top 1000 yards until their third year, or later:

Santana Moss (http://www.nfl.com/players/santanamoss/careerstats?id=MOS717844)
Steve Smith (http://www.nfl.com/players/stevesmith/careerstats?id=SMI733120)
Donald Driver (http://www.nfl.com/players/donalddriver/careerstats?id=DRI611685)
Terrell Owens (http://www.nfl.com/players/terrellowens/careerstats?id=OWE755129)
Derrick Mason (http://www.nfl.com/players/derrickmason/careerstats?id=MAS078652)

Of course there are the freaks who immediately produce, but if that's what you demand, then you are asking too much. Give our young WRs at least 1 more year before you are ready to kick them to the curb. Impatience is what drives our endless cycle of FA acquisitions, draft neglect, and ultimately our continued mediocrity. Chill out fools!

I was at the game and some of Kelly and Thomas not getting the ball is on JC's bad reads. On the last interception he threw, he had Kelly in the slot on the left and he BLEW past his guy and was wide but JC was locked on Moss and made an awful decision.

I like JC, but his inability to read the field is killing us.

After watching the game over and analyzing the game...I found Kelly to be open quite a bit. Why he is not breaking out is a complex issue. Either JC is locked on to one reciever (mostly Moss) or the o-line just broke down. The main time that sticks in my mind is the JC interception to Moss. Kelly was open down the center of the field for a TD!!! No confidence and lack of time is why I think Kelly is due soon! As for DT I have no answer...He does not look very good!

Rodgers oline broke down and he found every receiver on the roster.