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GTripp0012 11-01-2009, 01:37 PM Bill Parcells passed on Matt Ryan, and I would defend that decision. He realized that if he didn't address the O-line in a big way, it didn't matter who his QB would be. Drafting Jake Long was the right move, and the Dolphins will be relevant before we will, because Parcells teams don't get whipped in the trenches the way we do (especially on offense). He went from 1-15 to 11-5 with weak armed Pennington at QB for crying out loud!!!Parcells has also made it count by establishing the OL as a great unit, and then putting the infrastructure in place to take a rushing game, and turn it into something you have to spend extra hours scheming for.
Ryan also was not necessarily a better prospect than Henne coming out, and would have been a significant risk for the Dolphins. It now looks like Ryan was the better player, like a lot of people thought he was, but I can support Parcells' decision to pass.
Who is the Ryan of this draft though? Unless one player in specific can be identified, you have to pass on QB in the first round.
SmootSmack 11-01-2009, 01:37 PM Assuming it will be an uncapped year (which may or may not happen at this point), it will be interesting to see what tender if any we offer Rogers, Campbell, and McIntosh. My guess is we try to keep Rocky, probably rather willingly let Campbell go, and tender Rogers in such a way that we basically say he's available but will cost you
Skinny Tee 11-01-2009, 01:41 PM Bill Parcells passed on Matt Ryan, and I would defend that decision. He realized that if he didn't address the O-line in a big way, it didn't matter who his QB would be. Drafting Jake Long was the right move, and the Dolphins will be relevant before we will, because Parcells teams don't get whipped in the trenches the way we do (especially on offense). He went from 1-15 to 11-5 with weak armed Pennington at QB for crying out loud!!!
I personally thought that was the conclusion the common fan was finally going to come to. It seems like some fans still want a QB or RB even though their efforts would be futile with no stand out OL.
I don't know how people can't come to that conclusion. The longer our line is not accounted for with elite young talent, the longer it will be until we have a competitive team.
GTripp0012 11-01-2009, 01:41 PM For a year? Sure. And then maybe someone like a Blake DeChristopher or Jariel Carimi in 2011...as opposed to say Terrell PryorWell, I guess I'm asking, do you think he'd be better or worse than the fighting-through-injuries/limited mobility version of Chris Samuels?
SmootSmack 11-01-2009, 01:50 PM I personally thought that was the conclusion the common fan was finally going to come to. It seems like some fans still want a QB or RB even though their efforts would be futile with no stand out OL.
I don't know how people can't come to that conclusion. The longer our line is not accounted for with elite young talent, the longer it will be until we have a competitive team.
Who do you think has the best offensive line in the league?
Larry Michael is Satan 11-01-2009, 01:52 PM Jimmy Claussen or Jake Locker. I've been screaming about the O-Line as long as everybody, but we'll absolutely take a QB in the draft, especially if our pick is top 5. Most likely no QB's on our current roster will be here next year. I'd love to trade back and take multiple lineman, also Spikes will be a pro-bowler forever, God, we need like ten first round picks!
SmootSmack 11-01-2009, 01:53 PM Well, I guess I'm asking, do you think he'd be better or worse than the fighting-through-injuries/limited mobility version of Chris Samuels?
I think Samuels should retire, too much of a risk if he continues playing. I mean I know it could be said of just about any player, but he really is one bad hit away from permanent paralysis. Not worth it. I know it can't be easy for him to suddenly call it quits like this, but in the long run it's best for him
rbanerjee23 11-01-2009, 01:54 PM ...traded away for more picks, look guys JC isn't great but he isn't the number one problem. Sticking a young, inexperienced college qb behind the shitty OL won't make a lick of difference but will be akin to throwing away millions of dollars, you really want to make the same mistake as the 49ers with Alex Smith or Raiders with Jamarcus Russell?
Trade the pick for some second and third round picks and build some depth on the offensive line. That is the right move.
GTripp0012 11-01-2009, 01:55 PM Who do you think has the best offensive line in the league?It's the Jets, I think
If not them, then I think it's either New Orleans, Tennessee, Miami, Baltimore, or Denver.
SmootSmack 11-01-2009, 01:56 PM I should have started this thread with the caveat "Assume we are not trading our first round pick..."
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