Super Bowl XLIV Gameday Thread: Saints vs. Colts

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MTK
02-08-2010, 01:52 PM
Back on the game for a sec I loved how aggressive Sean Payton was.

skinsfan_nn
02-08-2010, 02:00 PM
Back on the game for a sec I loved how aggressive Sean Payton was.

If it weren't for that gutsy play calling. You know start of second half on side kick (BIG MOMENTUM) shift.

The outcome could have very well been different. The D was also in attack mode all game, Gregg was sending the kitchen sink.

Longtimefan
02-08-2010, 02:20 PM
NFL Network is now anointing the Saints "America's Team" with none other than Michael Irvin leading the charge. Is he forgetting that team he used to play for or what?

I'm really happy for the Saints, but it's amazing the things people will say after a big win like yesterday, praise comes from everywhere from some of the most unlikely sources. I too give it up for the Saints, no team more deserving.

53Fan
02-08-2010, 03:18 PM
Back on the game for a sec I loved how aggressive Sean Payton was.

Coaching was key in this game and Sean Payton won hands down. I was disappointed the Colts sent Stover out for the 51 yard FG. He's not very good from long distance anymore and I thought the Colts would have been better off going for it or punting for field position.

GTripp0012
02-08-2010, 03:18 PM
No they didn't. Brady didn't play for the 86 Bears or the 2000 Ravens. His Defenses were good, not great. AND Manning has had WAY MORE talent around him, yet he consistently under-achieves. As a matter of fact, if it weren't for Brady's pathetic Receivers (future hall of famers, Troy Brown and Jabar Gaffney) dropping passes, last night would have been Manning's first Super Bowl. Manning is this generations Dan Marino. Brady is this generation's Joe Montana. Manning has 29TDs and 18INTs in the playoffs. AVERAGE!

Manning is Brady's bitch!With all due respect, particularly to the 2006 Patriots, the better Brady's offense has gotten around him, the MORE dominant Manning has been in the head to head series.

In the time frame between 2001-2005, New England's defense was the best overall defense in the time range. They may never have had a single year where they could be in the "greatest defense of all time" debate, but you'd have to put the early-decade Patriots in the same class as the great Titans defenses from earlier this decade and the Steelers defenses from more recent times, and the mid-decade Bears as the best defensive unit of the last ten years. No defense has been better longer since the Patriots.

And Brady hasn't won anything since his defenses were relevant. He's 2-2 in his last four playoff games, and 5-4 in his last nine. We can rip Manning for his overall playoff record being out of line with his regular season record, but he hasn't been a worse (or better) quarterback in the postseason than Brady. Saying otherwise is ignoring the evidence.

It's 2010 now. You need a new narrative.

wilsowilso
02-08-2010, 03:20 PM
Back on the game for a sec I loved how aggressive Sean Payton was.

I think if someone said that onside kick was the gutsiest call they had ever seen in their entire lifetime I don't think I would be interested in arguing with them. It is just insane how much of a risk/reward calculation that play call was.

MTK
02-08-2010, 03:21 PM
Coaching was key in this game and Sean Payton won hands down. I was disappointed the Colts sent Stover out for the 51 yard FG. He's not very good from long distance anymore and I thought the Colts would have been better off going for it or punting for field position.

Yeah I don't think the Colts did anything to match NO's aggressiveness, and they clearly needed to in some spots. Stover doesn't have the range anymore for 50+, I thought they should have gone for it.

GTripp0012
02-08-2010, 03:22 PM
Now, if you want to argue that Drew Brees is a better quarterback in the postseason than either of them, there's only limited evidence on him, but he's actually 4-2 in the postseason since first reaching it in 2004, and has very comparable numbers to his regular season stats. You'll need like 3 more seasons on him before conclusions can be reached, but he was marvelous last night.

SmootSmack
02-08-2010, 03:26 PM
The Saints made another "bold move" toward the end of the 1st half by going for it on 4th down and the Colts D stuffed them. Indy blew it by going 3 and out deep in their own territory right after that. Colts had a huge chance to make something to end the first half after a 4th down goal-line stand and then start the 2nd half with the ball. That seems to have been forgotten

wilsowilso
02-08-2010, 03:28 PM
We can rip Manning for his overall playoff record being out of line with his regular season record, but he hasn't been a worse (or better) quarterback in the postseason than Brady. Saying otherwise is ignoring the evidence.

I call "bullshit" on this post. Only because it's absurd to suggest that Manning is in Tom Brady's league in playoff performance.

He absolutely is not.

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