The OFFICAL 2004 Election Thread

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MTK
11-03-2004, 08:41 AM
Looks like this game will be decided on a challenged call, the replays don't look good for Kerry but you never know what the refs will see.

illdefined
11-03-2004, 08:42 AM
they are also waiting on what the troops vote overseas. imagine if they all said the same thing. their vote should count double.

redrock-skins
11-03-2004, 10:02 AM
This is the year of defying stats. Looks like 4 more years. I really doubt theres 150K of provisional votes sitting there for Kerry. It was a disasterous day for Dems, no if, ands, or buts, about it.

That Guy
11-03-2004, 10:07 AM
they don't count absentee ballots unless there are enough to swing the results i don't think... military tends to vote republician, even when deployed (i'd attribute it to being an all volunteer army)...

and apparently you remembered that the redskins choose the winner, but forgot about their halloween exemption... this was really all done just to spite J. Edwards for rooting against washington's team...

MTK
11-03-2004, 10:35 AM
Personally I think every vote should be counted regardless. It's too close not to. Especially after the debacle in '00 when alot of data suggested Gore would have won if all of the votes were counted.

cpayne5
11-03-2004, 10:41 AM
What that_guy is saying is that it makes no sense to count 75k absentee ballots when one candidate is up by 100k. Really, what's the point?

I'm all for FL, OH, & IA being the only ones that vote now anyway. Why waste your time on the other 47? :D

That Guy
11-03-2004, 10:41 AM
results as of right now:

House: 228 GOP (+4), 199 DEM (-3), 1 IND... 7 undecided, 2 of which have dems currently in the lead (there's 2 in Louisiana that have Reps leading, but they do run offs, and in a run off, one of the two looks like it might turn into a dem win)...

Dems cannot take the house, and after the 7 undecideds, the final numbers will probably be 233 GOP, 201 DEM, 1 IND, though there's a potential swing of 1 or possibly 2...

Senate: 53 GOP (+3), 44 DEM (-3), 1 IND, 2 undecided... most noteable among the results races is that Daschle lost his seat, which should basically signal the end of ANY attempt for him to EVER run for president... quite a fall. Both undecideds are favoring the Rep. Candidates at this point... final overall should be 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND...

President: Looks like Bush gets 4 more years... it all depends on Ohio, but without any major controversies breaking out thus far, and by the 150,000 vote lead Bush has right now, I believe he'll win the state and the job.

Governors: 11 seats up, no changes in the overall balance has occured though (28 GOP, 21 DEM), 1 seat is still undecided (Rep. Candidate is ahead, but only by 700 votes, or 0.1%.. this one is REALLY close)...

Either way, its shaping up to be a sad day for democrats with wider margins in both the house and senate, no real change in governorship, and what's looking like 4 more years of a republican president.

That Guy
11-03-2004, 10:45 AM
as of now, NH is the only state that's flipped parties since 2000... (NH flipped to a DEM governor too).

a new record turnout was achieved this election, and bush now has more votes than any candidate ever (previously set by ronald reagan in a 1980 landslide)... I don't think he's gotten the highest % of votes compared to total population, but still a huge feat (especially considering he lost the popular vote last time).

this is also the best voter turnout (percentage-wise) compared to total population since the 1960s.

looking like vote turnout is going to be in the 115-120million range or so, which is a pretty big increase...

MTK
11-03-2004, 10:50 AM
What that_guy is saying is that it makes no sense to count 75k absentee ballots when one candidate is up by 100k. Really, what's the point?

I'm all for FL, OH, & IA being the only ones that vote now anyway. Why waste your time on the other 47? :D
I understand, but right now there's more absentee and provisional ballots out there than what Bush is leading by, correct?

MTK
11-03-2004, 10:53 AM
results as of right now:

House: 228 GOP (+4), 199 DEM (-3), 1 IND... 7 undecided, 2 of which have dems currently in the lead (there's 2 in Louisiana that have Reps leading, but they do run offs, and in a run off, one of the two looks like it might turn into a dem win)...

Dems cannot take the house, and after the 7 undecideds, the final numbers will probably be 233 GOP, 201 DEM, 1 IND, though there's a potential swing of 1 or possibly 2...

Senate: 53 GOP (+3), 44 DEM (-3), 1 IND, 2 undecided... most noteable among the results races is that Daschle lost his seat, which should basically signal the end of ANY attempt for him to EVER run for president... quite a fall. Both undecideds are favoring the Rep. Candidates at this point... final overall should be 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND...

President: Looks like Bush gets 4 more years... it all depends on Ohio, but without any major controversies breaking out thus far, and by the 150,000 vote lead Bush has right now, I believe he'll win the state and the job.

Governors: 11 seats up, no changes in the overall balance has occured though (28 GOP, 21 DEM), 1 seat is still undecided (Rep. Candidate is ahead, but only by 700 votes, or 0.1%.. this one is REALLY close)...

Either way, its shaping up to be a sad day for democrats with wider margins in both the house and senate, no real change in governorship, and what's looking like 4 more years of a republican president.
It's a say day for dems, but it will be an even sadder day for the country if they try to reverse Roe v Wade.

I wish the dems would have pushed that issue more, I think alot of people don't realize that it's a very real possibility it could happen.

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