Condoms For First Graders?

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DynamiteRave
06-27-2010, 12:07 AM
A couple of things: first, where in the article is the political affiliation of this school board or town identified? Firstdown and Buster, you are just assuming, asserting that some strange town behaving strangely is part and parcel of a larger "left" plot to ultimately show porn in schools and discredit the bible or whatever, and not just the bizarre and somewhat inexplicable maneuvering of an obscure school board in the middle of nowhere (a school board which may in fact be solidly republican, although that's unlikely). And even if the school board is predominantly liberal, or ick, even gay, from what do you conclude that their goofy school boarding represents some sort of larger political trend? This is what I term the outrage culture, in which the media spoon feeds people largely meaningless, completely symbolic stories about people in other towns doing crazy outrageous things, and tells these people that said stories somehow represent larger national trends, in this case the left's plan to turn your cute little first grader into a camel porn watching fornicating gay Muslim, meanwhile distracting from issues of actual substance. This is a non-issue. If you don't like the board's policy, don't move to that town. End of story.

Second, Buster, you should really see a therapist. So much anger! At least Firstdown seems like a nice guy.

Third, USA! I'm proud of our boys, hell of a world cup.

Holla!

Don't worry, when the Opal Ring Crusade comes to Buster's town, his kids will decide to have sex in the ear instead of regular intercourse. It's much safer that way.

hooskins
06-27-2010, 01:21 AM
Anyone else think about South Park when they saw this thread?

saden1
06-27-2010, 01:50 AM
spoken like someone who doesn't have kids. your way off base here, buddy

I am well qualified to speak on the subject without having had children of my own. I am my father son and he has tought me how to make good decisions. I have never felt I couldn't go to him for advice and I did all the time. No matter what is advice came first.

tryfuhl
06-27-2010, 02:24 AM
Yup, more Fox News flipping out over BS.

Condoms for Kids: Provincetown, Massachusetts Offers Counseling to Children, and Courts Controversy - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/condoms-kids-provincetown-massachusetts-offers-counseling-children-courts/story?id=11006233&page=3)

It was a FOX affiliate in Boston, not FOX News that ran the initial story. And if it was no big deal why did the school board get swamped with complaints and "revisit" their policy? Provincetown is a progressive area and the locals had no issue with the policy. As far as I'm concerned their public school policy is their business, public schools are a local matter.

However, there's no way condoms should be provided by the school to any children in elementary school. Middle school and high school, there should always be parental consent. Sex Ed, fine as long as it is age appropriate and there's a parental option to opt-out.

When the police come knocking on the school superintendent's door and not mine for something my kid did, or when my son gets someone pregnant the school district will provide all the necessary financial support to raise the child, or when the school district can figure out a way to bring my kid back from the dead if he died of an STD, then they can give him condoms without my consent. Until he's an adult he's my responsibility, not the school districts or state's, and that being the case no one in my school district will give him anything without my consent.
they say kids.. fox says first graders

they probably would've put kindergartners had they been able to spell it correctly

dmek25
06-27-2010, 06:04 AM
I am well qualified to speak on the subject without having had children of my own. I am my father son and he has tought me how to make good decisions. I have never felt I couldn't go to him for advice and I did all the time. No matter what is advice came first.
thats great, and im glad for you. but not all kids can avoid something known as peer pressure. in reality, you can do all the right things as a parent, and once the child reaches a certain age, they will start making their own decisions. they will have pressure from all angles. some will do the right thing. others.... let me ask you this, our prisons are full. are the parents of all those prisoners bad parents?

JoeRedskin
06-27-2010, 08:58 AM
they say kids.. fox says first graders

they probably would've put kindergartners had they been able to spell it correctly

And so you continue the cycle of hyperbole. Nice.

SmootSmack
06-27-2010, 09:46 AM
And so you continue the cycle of hyperbole. Nice.

And notice how FOX News has somehow hacked into MSNBC and taken over their site as well

1st graders can ask for condoms - Local News - Cleveland, OH - News - msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37904506/ns/local_news-cleveland,_oh)

Slingin Sammy 33
06-27-2010, 09:50 AM
I am well qualified to speak on the subject without having had children of my own. I am my father son and he has tought me how to make good decisions. I have never felt I couldn't go to him for advice and I did all the time. No matter what is advice came first.Your father has done a good job and I'm sure is a remarkable man (but how'd you get so misguided politically :)).

Anywho, both you and dmek have valid points. Unfortunately there are outside influences that as a parent you don't have control over. Often those outside influencers aren't the best. Every family situation and external environment are different, as is every person. All you can do is lay the best moral groundwork and constantly communicate with your kids (even when they're teenagers and that's the last thing they want to do). That and a good deal of prayer are the best you can do.

Slingin Sammy 33
06-27-2010, 10:07 AM
they say kids.. fox says first graders

they probably would've put kindergartners had they been able to spell it correctlyNo, you're right, it's just Fox News.

Condoms for First Graders? Mass. Elementary School Under Fire - - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20008696-10391704.html)

School could start handing out condoms to first graders - WIS News 10 - Columbia, South Carolina | (http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12702564)
(NBC affiliate)

Outrage Over Plan To Give Condoms To First Graders - KTLA (http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-first-graders-condoms,0,5948098.story)

Mass. school district to distribute condoms to any age student - (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/06/schools-new-rules-allow-students-of-any-age-to-ask-for-and-get-condoms-/1)
(USA Today)

Condoms For Elementary Students? Yes, Says Mass. Town - Boston News Story - WCVB Boston (http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/24003575/detail.html)
(a couple sentences in mentions first graders)

1st graders can ask for condoms - Local News - Cleveland, OH - News - msnbc.com (http://207.46.245.32/id/37904506/ns/local_news-cleveland,_oh)
(this and several other MSNBC links when googled mention 1st graders in the headline)

saden1
06-27-2010, 01:26 PM
Your father has done a good job and I'm sure is a remarkable man (but how'd you get so misguided politically :)).

Anywho, both you and dmek have valid points. Unfortunately there are outside influences that as a parent you don't have control over. Often those outside influencers aren't the best. Every family situation and external environment are different, as is every person. All you can do is lay the best moral groundwork and constantly communicate with your kids (even when they're teenagers and that's the last thing they want to do). That and a good deal of prayer are the best you can do.

You can't shape the world around your children, you can only shape how they see it. That is the only control you have and should expect to have.

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