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over the mountain
09-08-2010, 01:33 PM
^ Why sugarcoat everything? They know smoking is bad for your health and their bad habit is directly affecting a child's well-being.

He needs to be direct and clear, not "oh you're a responsible smoker and it would be nice if you'd..."

Smokers are irresponsible simply by being smokers. If they won't clean up for a kid's health, things need to change...like they can come visit him at his own smoke-free house. If they're like the majority of smokers, they'll take any suggestions as personal attacks on their "freedom".

If he is allergic, there is no ground to compromise on...they either have to help him out or stay away.

i fully understand. but there are ways of approaching situations. this isnt my situation but if it was my number one goal would be to do whats best for my child. but achieving this goal is possible without alienating or embarrassing or attacking the grandmother who obviously loves her grandson very much.

of course she loves her grandson more than smoking so basic logic for a non-smoker dictates that she should just quit smoking. i'd like to think this dynamic and situation mredskins and his wife is in is more delicate and sensitive. your talking about a grandmother. about a grandmothers feelings and acts which hurt her grandson. what grandmother wants to be placed in a position in which her daughter and SOL and talking to her about her actions which negatively effect her grandsons's health?

to me, that situation can be resolved while keeping the grandmothers feelings and sense of nurturing intact.

all im offerring is a recommendation to mredskins (who seems like a real cool thoughtful person) to be mindful of his approach as his MIL may be sensitive to this issue. obviously something needs to be done, but do it with compassion and understanding. were not talking about mredskins brother or even uncle, were talking grandmother here.

im guessin all she wants is to be there for her grandson in every capacity she can. to let her know that despite her efforts otherwise she has been hurting her grandson must be a very powerful emotional blow to one's self of grandmotherhood.

over the mountain
09-08-2010, 01:33 PM
One of the few times I can whole heartily say I agree with you.

It be one thing if the smoke only hurt the smoker but smokers are literally killing the rest of us as well and it is completely unfair to children who have no choice in the matter.

When I see a car load of kids with a smoker I seriously want to scream.

so do i and i digress.

good luck m.

mredskins
09-08-2010, 01:44 PM
so do i and i digress.

good luck m.


did you read the email I wrote to her? it is at the top of this page. I think it was very fair and both me and my wfie will follow up with a actually conversation. Since it is her mom she may go it alone but Ifelt Iwant my voice to be heard. My wife has begged my MIL to stop even when she was a child so I was hoping maybe if someone outside of their immediate family said hey this is actually hurting your grandson it might be the thing to put her and the rest of them over the edge to quit.

If I was going to be a hard ass about it, it would go something like this:

Stop F--king smoking near my son becasue if he gets cancer and dies I will hang it over your head until you die of cancer! Also, until you stop don't think you will ever see him.

I would never say that.

firstdown
09-08-2010, 05:01 PM
I'd like to see evidence that second hand smoke on clothing and hands could have those affects on another person. Not saying it wouldn't just never heard of second hand smoke as you describe. When I smoked I found 2 and 3 year olds where great at fetching my smokes and getting me a cold beer when I was too lazy/drunk to get up. My girlfriend Dixie thought it was cute.


:Smoker::pimp::cool-smil:vomit:

MTK
09-08-2010, 05:37 PM
Is it that crazy to think that smoke covered clothes and skin could cause health problems? Really?

Hog1
09-08-2010, 06:11 PM
Is it that crazy to think that smoke covered clothes and skin could cause health problems? Really?
It may not be crazy to think about it but is it true? I have never heard of that either, but it could be true
BTW.........I don't smoke

firstdown
09-08-2010, 06:25 PM
Is it that crazy to think that smoke covered clothes and skin could cause health problems? Really?

No its not crazy but I have never herd of 2nd stinky hand and Clothing health issues.

saden1
09-08-2010, 06:37 PM
When you walk into a bathroom and someone took a really stinky dump earlier and you smell said stink what you're doing is taking in that persons shit into your nose and subsequently your lungs.

Don't forget to breath, it's just a small particles of shit.

MTK
09-08-2010, 08:03 PM
http://www.thecmafoundation.org/rxchange/pdfs/otherpdfs/ETSfacts.pdf

Hog1
09-08-2010, 08:19 PM
When you walk into a bathroom and someone took a really stinky dump earlier and you smell said stink what you're doing is taking in that persons shit into your nose and subsequently your lungs.

Don't forget to breath, it's just a small particles of shit.

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