NFL Might Suspend Players for Violent Hits

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Alvin Walton
10-19-2010, 11:57 AM
Yea, now its my Aunt Martha's NFL.

aceinthehouse
10-19-2010, 03:26 PM
BTW..The NFL is full of crap...

Saying there doing it for the Safety of the Players....
If this were true,then they would draw back their push for an 18 game schedule...

With all the injuries we are having,the last thing they need to be doing is adding 2 more games during the season.

Why don't they crack down on players wearing the required uniform?
You wouldn't believe how many players don't wear Knee pads like RB's and WR's because it slows them down?

I was taught and required as a young player to always wear those things,as much as I hated them...But they do protect the knees..

These players can marrch on to te field without them and nothing is said..
Why don't they crack down on that,instead of what color your socks are?
Or the players wearing diamond stud necklaces during games that don't belong?

The NFL doesn't care about anything, but there image..(see big ben and favre)
And money!

It's that simple..

CRedskinsRule
10-19-2010, 03:32 PM
Well, you could argue the crackdown on dangerous hits is specifically because they know the 18 game schedule is coming, and so they need to make sure their best players aren't getting season ending injuries.

Don't know that that is their rationale, but it makes sense to me.

aceinthehouse
10-19-2010, 06:18 PM
BTW...
Merriweather who had the head-to-head hit on heap where he actually was trying to hurt him and was flagged for it and knocked heap out of the game was fined $50,000.

Harrison who knocked out Cribbs in a legal and non-flagged devastating hit was fined $75,000
Nobody has been suspended at the moment.

You guys still love their interpretation now?
Told ya..

Defensewins
10-19-2010, 08:04 PM
Well, you could argue the crackdown on dangerous hits is specifically because they know the 18 game schedule is coming, and so they need to make sure their best players aren't getting season ending injuries.

Don't know that that is their rationale, but it makes sense to me.

Thy really only make a stink about it when offensive skill position players get hurt.

I saw an interesting piece on this situation, I think it was before the Monday Night game and they made some interesting observations.
Steve Young said that some of the rule changes to encourage more offense and in turn more passing is partially to blame for this situation. Before the rule changes most Qb's went back to pass on average of 20 to 30 times. Now it is not unusual for them to throw it 30 to 40 times. This exposes QB's and receivers to more opportunities to be put in a defenseless position. I agree with it. The NFL owners unknowingly helped create this problem.

Another point was there are now more teams since expansion and not enough quality QB's to go around. Inaccurate QB's that throw a high ball over the middle are exposing their receivers and are partly to blame as well. I agree with this point. If a QB is reckless with his ball placement to a reciever over the middle, especially when he throws it late, he is exposing the receiver.

Nobody but the greedy owners want to increase the schedule to 18 games, it is a really bad move. The owners, most of who have never played in the NFL or played organized football period are passing rules that they do not understand the full results or outcome of the rule changes. Players and coaches should be the only ones on the rules committee. Owners should not because they have a financial bias that can not be denied.

#56fanatic
10-20-2010, 08:10 AM
This is such a fine line of Great hits and potentially life altering hits. From pee-wee through college you are tought to tackle a certain way. When you have these guys coming full speed to hit someone and the person they are hitting lowers their head or squats down a little, it is an accidental helmet to helmet hit. The one with Harrison and Masaqua (SP) didn't look intentional, nor did the DeShean Jacksons hit look intentional. They were both going full speed, Jackson was coming down after catching the ball and it looked like the DB was aming for his chest. I just feel this rule is going to do more harm to the game, than it is helping guys on the field.

mlmdub130
10-20-2010, 08:55 AM
Who's "Soup"?

And, in my opinion, we got lucky on that Jarmon hit. It looked clearly like hlelmet to helmet to me. I think so long as you don't lead with your helmet you should be ok. Wrapping up is the more fundamental way to do it, but really it's the knock out shots that cause the turnovers. I think more is being made of this right now than will actually come out of it.

1, 2, and 3 right there.

1. if players actually tackle and wrap up this becomes way less of an issue

2. they have to reinforce when to go for the hit and when to wrap up

3. i'll take you back to post 18 http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/39293-nfl-might-suspend-players-violent-hits-2.html#post749798 where i think you nailed it, i could see what happened in mlb with congress stepping in having an effect of the nfl's quick reaction to implement a rule

jdlea
10-20-2010, 09:11 AM
BTW...
Merriweather who had the head-to-head hit on heap where he actually was trying to hurt him and was flagged for it and knocked heap out of the game was fined $50,000.

That's not even correct.

Meriweather hit on Heap

If you watch that, Meriweather commits to that hit before Mayo hits Heap. Heap moves to Meriweather's left and his head comes down. That's the only reason that ends up being helmet to helmet. I think the intent on Meriweather's part was to put his shoulder/helmet somewhere around Heap's chest/ribs, but the hit from Mayo altered Heap and it ends up being helmet to helmet.

I, personally, don't like the rule because of hits like this. I think Meriweather was going to try to land a kill shot, but it ended up being infinitely worse than he intended because another player hit him a split-second earlier. That's not enough to adjust. Having the advantage of seeing things in super slow mo isn't anything these players can do. The game moves too fast for the NFL to suspend guys for hits like this.

I've honestly watched most of the big hits from this weekend (the 2 by Harrison, the Meriweather one, and the Robinson one) and I can make a case that they all could have been legal hits if not for split second events that made them look bad. Personally, I don't even believe the Robinson hit was at all dirty. His head ricochets into the helmet area of Jackson, but he initially buries it in his shoulder.

Monkeydad
10-20-2010, 09:50 AM
The Robinson hit on DeSean Jackson was clean...just a solid, hard hit that hurt an undersized guy.

I was watching the Pats/Ravens game when it happened on Heap...that was clearly an intentional headshot in my opinion.

Harrison gets no benefit of the doubt because of his history of dirty, cheap shots AND his statements this week. I didn't see his hits this week so I won't make a judgement on these particular hits, but he strikes me as a modern-day Jack Tatum...he'll try to hurt anyone in any way possible and not care.

Lotus
10-20-2010, 10:31 AM
The Robinson hit on DeSean Jackson was clean...just a solid, hard hit that hurt an undersized guy.

I was watching the Pats/Ravens game when it happened on Heap...that was clearly an intentional headshot in my opinion.

Harrison gets no benefit of the doubt because of his history of dirty, cheap shots AND his statements this week. I didn't see his hits this week so I won't make a judgement on these particular hits, but he strikes me as a modern-day Jack Tatum...he'll try to hurt anyone in any way possible and not care.

Agreed. Meriweather deserves a fine but Dunta Robinson got a raw deal.

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