sam bradford

I think you guys are generalizing quite a bit in regards to Bill Walsh's WCO w/ Montana and Young.
Walsh WCO was a complete passing game 3-5-7 step drops they went deep quite often.
There WCO wasn't a 3 step heavy variety like Jon Gruden favors or like the Rams ran for Bradford.

74%
Bradford: Coming up short (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/article_459dc7d1-9892-5d2d-a215-9981047f3d18.html)

Brady was around 72%

Didn't read the article yet, but most passing offense get their efficiency by throwing short: screens, hitches, flat routes and drags.
They key is to also mix in intermediate and deep stuff.

I think you guys are generalizing quite a bit in regards to Bill Walsh's WCO w/ Montana and Young.
Walsh WCO was a complete passing game 3-5-7 step drops they went deep quite often.
There WCO wasn't a 3 step heavy variety like Jon Gruden favors or like the Rams ran for Bradford.I know Walsh had a use for all of those drop lengths. But the guy was just going by his imperfect memory, which was steeped with "short pass and YAC" with Young and Montana.

I just meant to say that it wasn't the QB's "style" or habits that made them appear to check down every time, but rather it was because Walsh called designed short passing plays.

I never saw those 49ers play in the time period, but I have read Walsh's playbooks and writings.

One year in the league and he's already as system qb ... rams offense is 75% quick slants ... Bradford isn't as good as most of u think... but he is going to get better IMO and develop to be a better all around qb

The Rams did a lot to protect Bradford, but that's the smart thing to do with a rookie. I think next year we'll see their offense open up a lot more.

74%
Bradford: Coming up short (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/article_459dc7d1-9892-5d2d-a215-9981047f3d18.html)

Brady was around 72%

ok thanks,thats what happens to a memory when you get old.Thats not the article I read and I didnt do the math but I didnt see anything about 74%.Yes it was a smart thing to do with Bradford.But when you see he attempted throws over 20 yards only 36 times in 590 attempts it seems kind of shocking to me,but its probably like that across the board

ok thanks,thats what happens to a memory when you get old.Thats not the article I read and I didnt do the math but I didnt see anything about 74%.Yes it was a smart thing to do with Bradford.But when you see he attempted throws over 20 yards only 36 times in 590 attempts it seems kind of shocking to me,but its probably like that across the board

Maybe you saw 79%? 79% of his completions (not attempts) were within 10 yards

I'm a bit of a Bill Walsh and WCO buff myself, and if you didn't see his 49ers offenses you might believe that they were a strictly short passing offense but they were a complete passing offense:

A fully dimensional passing game should include, in varying degrees, several types of passes. Not only does having several forms of passing in the passing scheme give a team a variety of offensive weapons, it also enhances the ability of the team to handle each contingency condition and situationsd it occurs.
"....the coaching staff should guard against being "seduced" by the relative ease of completing 3-step drop passes"
"A key factor to consider when using the 3 step drop pass is how much yardage is gained relative to the number of times the play is run. An offensive scheme using 3-step drop passes which doesn't produce relatively significant yardage, despite numerous opportunities, may be serving the defense more than the offense."

-Bill Walsh
'Finding the winning edge'

Here's a vid that shows a glimpse of there 7 step game
MmhI6NNR088

I'm a bit of a Bill Walsh and WCO buff myself, and if you didn't see his 49ers offenses you might believe that they were a strictly short passing offense but they were a complete passing offense:


Here's a vid that shows a glimpse of there 7 step game
MmhI6NNR088

I've read some of his stuff(wikipedia links to some of his coaching documents at Stanford, etc) months ago. What you said is true. I'm not trying to disagree with you.

I've read some of his stuff(wikipedia links to some of his coaching documents at Stanford, etc) months ago. What you said is true. I'm not trying to disagree with you.

Another case of lost in translation.
Just passing along info, no disagreement here.
Cheers-