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skinsfaninok
12-18-2010, 01:30 PM
John Clayton said this morning on SC that Shanny could try and make a move for jay cutler, I doubt Chicago trades him even though he hasn't played that great. I'm all for drafting a rookie but I think luck is the only day 1 starter. Like I said yesterday I wouldn't mind seeing orton here

SmootSmack
12-18-2010, 01:43 PM
Claytons been taking Cutler for a few months now

MTK
12-18-2010, 01:45 PM
Here we go with the Snyder did it stuff. Ugh. :doh:

SirClintonPortis
12-18-2010, 01:48 PM
Okay no ones gonna actually match them up so let me continue my narrative:

Snyder:
Tried to talk Berry Sanders out of retirement
Tried to lure Rickey Williams
Signs Jeff George and pushes him on the coach
Signs big name free agents all the time
Overpays in trades
Wants every QB flavor of the month (Cutler/Sanches)
Brought in several aging name QB's
Facinated by over the hill RB's
Signed Shawn Alexander
Traded for TJ Duckett
Overpaid for Clinton Portis

Shanahan:
Turns unheralded/late round/undrafted RB's into 1000 yard runners
Doesn't sign many big name free agents
Gets the better in trades
Drafts QB's tries to develop them
Never signed/traded for big name splashy vet QB's

Now lets put McNabb Willy Parker and Larry Johnson on one column or the other...

Shanahan:
Turns unheralded/late round/undrafted RB's into 1000 yard runners
Doesn't sign many big name free agents
Gets the better in trades
Drafts QB's tries to develop them
Never signed/traded for big name splashy vet QB's
Traded 2nd and 4th round picks for McNabb
Signed Larry Johnson
Signed Willy Parker

OPPS time to play "one of these is not like the other"! On the other hand:

Snyder:
Tried to talk Berry Sanders out of retirement
Tried to lure Rickey Williams
Signs Jeff George and pushes him on the coach
Signs big name free agents all the time
Overpays in trades
Wants every QB flavor of the month (Cutler/Sanches)
Brought in several aging name QB's
Facinated by over the hill RB's
Signed Shawn Alexander
Traded for TJ Duckett
Overpaid for Clinton Portis
Traded 2nd and 4th round picks for McNabb
Signed Larry Johnson
Signed Willy Parker

Ahhhh perfect fit....

Yes I know many of you are holding out hope that BA and Shanahan represented Snyder "turning a corner" "learning his lesson" or "handing over the reigns to the football people".

But I can't help but conclude that all circumstantial evidence and both persons "MO's" -- Especially given how McNabb and both runners have been handled by Shanahan -- point to Snyder's fingers still in the cookie Jar.
Oh? It's not like Shanahan is flawless.
The entire Cleveland Browns defensive line.
Ron Dayne
The second highest-payroll in NFL history in 2001. (We have the record and the third-highest.


BTW, if Snyder really had a say, Haynesworth would not have been suspended.

SirClintonPortis
12-18-2010, 01:49 PM
Also, Gibbs wanted Duckett, JC, Brunell, etc. He wanted to call the shots and he got it.

MTK
12-18-2010, 01:49 PM
Oh? It's not like Shanahan is flawless.
The entire Cleveland Browns defensive line.
Ron Dayne
The second highest-payroll in NFL history in 2001. (We have the record and the third-highest.


BTW, if Snyder really had a say, Haynesworth would not have been suspended.

Nuff said right there.

Not too hard to see that Snyder isn't pulling the strings anymore.

SirClintonPortis
12-18-2010, 01:50 PM
Also, Shanahan was ACTUALLY penalized for being IN VIOLATION of the salary cap. Us? At least we avoided THAT. 'nuff said

sportscurmudgeon
12-18-2010, 01:54 PM
After thinking it over for a few hours I'm in the boat of hey why not?

McNabb clearly isn't the answer here for Shanahan, so why not evaluate the other guys?

I heard Kevin Sheehan make a good point and I'm paraphrasing here, doesn't matter if you're a bad guy like AH or a great guy like DM, if you're not getting it done Shanahan is going to move on, and he doesn't care who's feelings he hurts.

Matty:

Sounds good - - but if you name is Kyle Shanahan can you stay around even if you "aren't getting it done"...?

Just asking...

skinsfaninok
12-18-2010, 01:58 PM
Snyder has nothing to do with player decisions anymore folks chill out

MTK
12-18-2010, 02:03 PM
Matty:

Sounds good - - but if you name is Kyle Shanahan can you stay around even if you "aren't getting it done"...?

Just asking...

If you don't have the talent to execute the plays it doesn't matter what plays are called. KS didn't turn into a bum overnight. He knows what he's doing when it comes to running an offense.

Would you fire him? You think he's a problem?

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