McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...

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GMScud
12-24-2010, 11:41 AM
Good post.

It's funny that Skins fans have become so used to the drama queen players getting their way around here. The fans scream for change, but when it finally comes they resist just as much as some of these crybaby players. For years peopled have wanted a no nonsense, my way or the highway kind of leadership style in here. Now that we have it, it's all http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i318/JVM485/Avatars/smiley_cry.gif I don't like this now.

DM simply wasn't playing well at all, he should have been benched after the Detroit game. Amazing that after not having started a game since 2008, Grossman of all people is able to step in and do 2 things DM hasn't done all year, throw 4 TDs and put 30 points on the board.

DM is a great guy and I really wanted it to work out for him here, but if it doesn't and someone else can step in and perform at a higher level, get his ass outta here and let's move on. All this BS about respect, or crying about they didn't cater the offense to me, just totally rubs me the wrong way. It's an obvious ploy by DM's agent to get him outta here sooner rather than later.

Not too many people will argue with that. It's the way in which DM has been handled - specifically the Detroit game - and what we gave up to get him that's so disconcerting.

I don't think anyone is going to argue that he was playing really well.

firstdown
12-24-2010, 11:43 AM
That's a fair point, in a vacuum. But these are the Redskins- a team with a history of shipping off desperately needed draft picks for old vets. A team that was coming out of two years of circus-like coaching/organizational moves. A team that needed sound personnel decisions and a steady QB.

Shit does indeed happen. Year after year. That's why this is getting so much attention. The Shanahan regime was supposed to bring a departure from this sort of stuff. As of yet, no dice.

Sure, Redskins Park no longer hast the country club mentality, but can you really say a whole lot more about Shanny/Allen thus far?

That was probably the reason why they went after DM.

Chico23231
12-24-2010, 11:46 AM
Well, the knee jerk reaction of benching him in the Detroit game, and then the totally pathetic "reasoning" Shanahan came up with- he wasn't in "cardiovascular shape" to run the 2 minute drill, Rex knows it better, etc etc. That was a huge blunder IMO.

Yes agreed. That was the start of the dumb sh*t. If Shanny and FO feel like McNabb is not a good fit the best moves would have been:

A) Shouldnt bench McNabb in the final drive and come up with lame ass excuse

B) Should have let McNabb finish out the season as the starting QB

Look we all know McNabb isnt back next season and we all know what we got with Rex. Rex didnt need to get evaluated, thats horse sh*t.

We should have let McNabb finish out in both above situations and in the offseason quietly put him on the block to other team for a 4th or 3rd round pick. McNabb can still play and teams ALWAYS are looking for a QB....San Fran, Seattle, Minnesota for sure........Possible QB upgrades: Tennessee, Raiders, Buffalo, Carolina...

We might have to cut him now the way Shanny waved a huge red flag saying he's not gonna be here next year. Not smart at all

MTK
12-24-2010, 11:48 AM
Newsflash, Shanahan is not without flaws and he's made his share of mistakes over the years, along with quite a bit of success as well. Not even one full year in and some seem to have their minds made up that Shanahan can't get it done.

Hilarious.

Nobody said turning around this Titanic of a franchise was going to be easy. Years of mediocre play, dishing out big paydays, and inmates running the asylum is going to take some time to get reversed and on a new track.

MTK
12-24-2010, 11:51 AM
Yes agreed. That was the start of the dumb sh*t. If Shanny and FO feel like McNabb is not a good fit the best moves would have been:

A) Shouldnt bench McNabb in the final drive and come up with lame ass excuse

B) Should have let McNabb finish out the season as the starting QB

Look we all know McNabb isnt back next season and we all know what we got with Rex. Rex didnt need to get evaluated, thats horse sh*t.

We should have let McNabb finish out in both above situations and in the offseason quietly put him on the block to other team for a 4th or 3rd round pick. McNabb can still play and teams ALWAYS are looking for a QB....San Fran, Seattle, Minnesota for sure........Possible QB upgrades: Tennessee, Raiders, Buffalo, Carolina...

We might have to cut him now the way Shanny waved a huge red flag saying he's not gonna be here next year. Not smart at all

When did he say that? Last I heard MS didn't close the door on him returning.

skinsnut
12-24-2010, 11:55 AM
As much as some may not like the agent's "complaining"....it actually benefits 2 parties.
1. McNabb...it may stabilize his value to other teams.
2. The Skins...the crappier Shanny looks like as a coach, the higher trade value McNabb could have due to perceived misuse...

I say...the more controversy, the better, if we intend to trade him.
In this case..the more bad news...the better for the Skins.

MTK
12-24-2010, 11:59 AM
Not too many people will argue with that. It's the way in which DM has been handled - specifically the Detroit game - and what we gave up to get him that's so disconcerting.

I don't think anyone is going to argue that he was playing really well.

MS could have handled the Detroit benching better, sure. He should have just said DM hasn't been playing well so we were looking for a spark from Grossman. I think everyone could have lived with that explanation.

Why he tossed out the silliness about him not being in shape, who knows. MS isn't known for being a slick handler of the media, and often he would be better served by just saying less. But we didn't hire him to be a PR guy, we hired him to win football games. I'll live with all the PFT type of tabloid drama as long as he gets this thing turned around.

Chico23231
12-24-2010, 12:03 PM
When did he say that? Last I heard MS didn't close the door on him returning.

Sure I dont think he will come out and publically say McNabb will not be here next season...but the Kelly Johnson inteview b4 the previous game Shanny when asked if it was a mistake to bring McNabb here he said something in the way of "sometimes things dont work out like you plan them." I dont take that as a vote of confidence for McNabb returning. He didnt say No its wasnt a mistake or he plans on McNabb contributing to this team in the future. I think the contract we gave him is another indicator. I feel he's chancing of returning to the Skins is in the 10-20%. I think serious damage has been done with Shanny's choices he has made in McNabb returning. McNabb is personally going to say the right things, he always has. I think his agent though is speaking exactly how McNabb feels.

I think McNabb can still play in this league, on a high level? questionable...with Shanny and Kyle as his coaches?...very unlikely

GMScud
12-24-2010, 12:15 PM
Newsflash, Shanahan is not without flaws and he's made his share of mistakes over the years, along with quite a bit of success as well. Not even one full year in and some seem to have their minds made up that Shanahan can't get it done.

Hilarious.

Nobody said turning around this Titanic of a franchise was going to be easy. Years of mediocre play, dishing out big paydays, and inmates running the asylum is going to take some time to get reversed and on a new track.

As to the first point- sure he's had successes and failures. What coach/GM hasn't? My point is, to have his first big move as our HC/Personnel man be such a failure at such a high price at the most important position... well, pretty darn bad start.

As to the second point, is anyone saying he can't get it done? He just hasn't gotten off on the right foot.

GMScud
12-24-2010, 12:17 PM
When did he say that? Last I heard MS didn't close the door on him returning.

I think what Shanahan said is he "can't guarantee that McNabb will be back next year." But let's be honest, at this point hell will freeze over before McNabb takes another snap for us.

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