Rogers Ready to Move On

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NC_Skins
05-19-2011, 02:48 PM
I'm not sure why we as fans always feel the need to put down another player when talking about one player.

If this is in reference to anything I've said, I'm sick and tired of people bashing Rogers, yet hail D. Hall as if he's some hero. Rogers is more consistent at the CB spot than Hall will ever be, yet he gets all the glamour because he has ONE good game, and picks up a random bouncing ball for a TD. (yet gives up the most TDs, yards, 1st downs, etc..)

I've said why I think Rogers needs to go, and it's based off of his attitude.

Monkeydad
05-19-2011, 02:52 PM
I'm not sure why we as fans always feel the need to put down another player when talking about one player.

Inability to form a valid argument in their own favor.

Seriously, who can defend Carlos? :D

jdlea
05-19-2011, 03:04 PM
No, I think we both agreed. You are just putting too much priority emphasizes on the play itself when in fact the play may have never occurred had it not been for a lucky bounce. So that sole "spectacular individual play" relied on pure luck.

To say that "technically pretty much everything is luck" is beyond false. It does take a lot of luck (with injuries/ball bouncing/etc) to win the Super Bowl, and I've heard countless coaches even say so. Better to be lucky than not.


This goes back to what SS says about people dissing Rogers because he drops INTs. Fans only care about the ESPN highlights, and many judge a players abilities by those highlights to. I think we are done here.

One thing I will say: that ball probably wasn't staying in bounds forever so, he made his own luck by running it down: hustle isn't luck.

Also, I really could make the case that everything is luck, it's not beyond false. The Redskins are lucky DeAngelo Hall wasn't hurt before that game (luck, by your definition) or he would have never been there to make that play. There; now the entire play is based on the fact that Hall wasn't unlucky enough to be injured...lol

CultBrennan59
05-19-2011, 03:12 PM
Creating turnovers is just as vital of a role for a CB as coverage. Think of it this way, how many lost opportunities and probably games have Rogers' drops caused? In this league, you can't give opponents second chances. That's what Carlos does. The real problem is not that he drops interceptions, it's how he drops EASY interceptions that hit him in the hands, chest, facemask...a professional football player should not be doing this, that often.

It has become a liability that really detracts from his decent coverage skills.

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If not for Orakpo actually getting a rare holding call, that blunder would have cost of the game.

I still remember what Cris Collinsworth said during the game, that "Carlos Rogers would be in the pro bowl every year if he could catch."

Longtimefan
05-19-2011, 03:19 PM
I guess Rogers is yet another player who really doesn't get it. No one is trying to replace him. He can stay all he wants. But I'm betting he's going to ask for a mint and he's not worth it. Now if he's willing to sign another contract about the range of what he's making now then fine, but as other have said he's thinking payday and I'm guessing he might get a little humbled in the end. But that depends on the need at CB by other teams.

It's not my intention to bad-mouth the guy because he may/or may not be leaving for greener pastures. If at this point in his career he's playing the game for the money and feels he may be able to make more someplace else...go for it, just don't become a Fred Smoot clone. Rogers does think he's better than Hall.

Carlos Rogers Thinks He’s Better Than DeAngelo Hall | Yardbarker.com (http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/carlos_rogers_thinks_hes_better_than_deangelo_hall/4755982)

Son Of Man
05-19-2011, 03:24 PM
I'm not sure why we as fans always feel the need to put down another player when talking about one player.

I second that. Prove your points logically with vetted facts. Or, just give your opinion and present it as such. Trashing another player, who has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.....and who LIKES being in the B&G.....is low class at best.

SmootSmack
05-19-2011, 03:35 PM
If this is in reference to anything I've said, I'm sick and tired of people bashing Rogers, yet hail D. Hall as if he's some hero. Rogers is more consistent at the CB spot than Hall will ever be, yet he gets all the glamour because he has ONE good game, and picks up a random bouncing ball for a TD. (yet gives up the most TDs, yards, 1st downs, etc..)

I've said why I think Rogers needs to go, and it's based off of his attitude.

Not in reference to anything you said. Though Hall has had more than one good game...and even if it were just one, it's probably one more than Rogers :)

But I digress, I think the opinion of Hall is pretty mixed. However, if we must compare the fact is the one thing that Rogers simply doesn't do, the one thing that (in my opinion at least) keeps him from being the elite CB he wants to be paid as is that he doesn't catch the damn ball. And that is something Hall does do.

But I'd prefer to look at it regardless of Hall. Is Carlos Rogers' good enough and will he continue to be good enough to warrant a huge paycheck. In my opinion...no

freddyg12
05-19-2011, 03:48 PM
Not in reference to anything you said. Though Hall has had more than one good game...and even if it were just one, it's probably one more than Rogers :)

But I digress, I think the opinion of Hall is pretty mixed. However, if we must compare the fact is the one thing that Rogers simply doesn't do, the one thing that (in my opinion at least) keeps him from being the elite CB he wants to be paid as is that he doesn't catch the damn ball. And that is something Hall does do.

But I'd prefer to look at it regardless of Hall. Is Carlos Rogers' good enough and will he continue to be good enough to warrant a huge paycheck. In my opinion...no

I concur, but he's good enough to get an above avg. paycheck & I'd like to see him stay here w/one. Doesn't look like that will happen though.

Longtimefan
05-19-2011, 03:52 PM
DeAngelo Hall and friend respond to Carlos Rogers - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/deangelo-hall-and-friend-respond-to-carlos-rogers/2011/05/19/AFtR8B7G_blog.html)

SmootSmack
05-19-2011, 03:57 PM
I concur, but he's good enough to get an above avg. paycheck & I'd like to see him stay here w/one. Doesn't look like that will happen though.

He doesn't want above average, and that's his prerogative.

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