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How does Colin Kaepernick sound? I didn't know if you could possibly get him from the raiders for maybe a third round pick. Considering the raiders have Pryor, Palmer, and Kaepernick under contract and also the rumors of them signing Flynn could possibly open up the idea of a trade. I remember a few people on here last year were glamoring over him. Thought's?
That would be tough since he's actually on the 49ers.
WaldSkins 01-12-2012, 02:10 PM That would be tough since he's actually on the 49ers.
Ha. nevermind then.
skinsguy 01-12-2012, 03:05 PM Let me ask you this, are you any at all interested in Flynn?
I am because we need a Vet on this team. Even if it's just a replacement for Beck. I'd prefer Grossman get sent packing also, but I ask because Flynn is 26yo, Weeden is only 28. I agree no one wants their Rookie draft pick to be on the back end of their career age wise but I feel his age should make him more mature and a more stable football QB. In other words he probably should make better decisions on and off the field.
If Weeden fits what MS and KS want a QB to do then I'm happy with drafting him and letting the best QB play. This would also buy the team time to develope Weeden and still be able to pick up a QB next year if the market has more talented QB's in it.
If we could get Flynn AND draft a good QB, I'd be for that. HOWEVER, we all know Flynn is going to be getting mad money. Do we really want to invest that much money into someone who has only played two games?
skinsguy 01-12-2012, 03:07 PM that would be tough since he's actually on the 49ers.
lol!
SBXVII 01-12-2012, 03:16 PM If we could get Flynn AND draft a good QB, I'd be for that. HOWEVER, we all know Flynn is going to be getting mad money. Do we really want to invest that much money into someone who has only played two games?
and I'd say yes. No different then how it used to be, giving a drafted QB a ton of money and he hasn't played at all in the NFL. Atleast we know what Flynn can do and what he might be able to do in our system vs. RGIII whom we have no clue if he will do well or not.
But the key is there is a Rookie CAP so there would not be a ton of money dished out to both.
skinsguy 01-12-2012, 03:22 PM and I'd say yes. No different then how it used to be, giving a drafted QB a ton of money and he hasn't played at all in the NFL. Atleast we know what Flynn can do and what he might be able to do in our system vs. RGIII whom we have no clue if he will do well or not.
But the key is there is a Rookie CAP so there would not be a ton of money dished out to both.
The way I'm looking at it is with the Rookie Cap, it's much cheaper to invest in the high draft pick rookie than it would be the free agent. And with other teams in need of a QB (Seahawks, Miami, possibly Cleveland as well) if it was an either or thing, I would choose the draft pick. What if we invest a lot of money into Flynn, have him tied up for the next few seasons, and he completely bombs after year one?
I think ONLY if the deal is backloaded with incentive based money.
CultBrennan59 01-12-2012, 03:29 PM I think I, along with the rest of us, are missing the key fact about Flynn. We all saw his TD performances against NE and the 6 TD's against the Lions. And after evaluations, the majority of us are saying 'oh thats all his receiver's, his talent, his scheme.' But the thing we seem to be missing is that he is Smart enought to get it to the right guy, the open guy, and he is Proven that he can grasp and get a hold of an offense and make the right decision.
Who knows how good he Could be if he gets a hold of the Shanahan's offense, and gets a great playmaking WR..
SBXVII 01-12-2012, 03:31 PM The way I'm looking at it is with the Rookie Cap, it's much cheaper to invest in the high draft pick rookie than it would be the free agent. And with other teams in need of a QB (Seahawks, Miami, possibly Cleveland as well) if it was an either or thing, I would choose the draft pick. What if we invest a lot of money into Flynn, have him tied up for the next few seasons, and he completely bombs after year one?
I think ONLY if the deal is backloaded with incentive based money.
I understand where your coming from, and agree with you but the problem is no one knows how any QB will turn out. Heck look at McNabb, although he was on the decline (which is why I didn't want him), Hasslebach is probably a better example, was playing for one team and was not really lighting it up then went to Seattle and did awesome.
In the old days teams would pay the Vet decent money and the Rookie would get the payday. The only difference is it's flipped. So we give Flynn his payday and we still get RGIII at the top end of the Rookie CAP. Plus Allen has not really done what Cerrato has done in the past so I'd imagine we would get Flynn with a decent contract.
chrisl13 01-12-2012, 03:32 PM I think I, along with the rest of us, are missing the key fact about Flynn. We all saw his TD performances against NE and the 6 TD's against the Lions. And after evaluations, the majority of us are saying 'oh thats all his receiver's, his talent, his scheme.' But the thing we seem to be missing is that he is Smart enought to get it to the right guy, the open guy, and he is Proven that he can grasp and get a hold of an offense and make the right decision.
Who knows how good he Could be if he gets a hold of the Shanahan's offense, and gets a great playmaking WR..
Cough, Blackmon, cough, number 6 pick, cough.
SBXVII 01-12-2012, 03:37 PM I think I, along with the rest of us, are missing the key fact about Flynn. We all saw his TD performances against NE and the 6 TD's against the Lions. And after evaluations, the majority of us are saying 'oh thats all his receiver's, his talent, his scheme.' But the thing we seem to be missing is that he is Smart enought to get it to the right guy, the open guy, and he is Proven that he can grasp and get a hold of an offense and make the right decision.
Who knows how good he Could be if he gets a hold of the Shanahan's offense, and gets a great playmaking WR..
On top of that he played well in the NFL in a WCO. None of the QB's coming out of the draft can say that. was RGIII in a WC style of offense in college? was Luck in a WC style of offense in college?
I'm all for getting RGIII and hope he works out for us and we have a QB for the future, but what if he doesn't work out? whats the game plan? I'd rather have Flynn as well cause our chances of him working out are better then any Rookie coming out in the draft. He's proven he can make all the throws, can pick the right WR to go to, is safe with the ball, and "CAN" throw for 6 TD's in a game, in the same style system we run. Whats not to like?
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