SmootSmack
06-28-2012, 02:43 PM
Seemed like a whole lot of nothing; if anything the fan was in the wrong.
Agreed. A whole lotta nothing...but he should walk away because fans can be very stupid and often look to start trouble
NC_Skins
06-28-2012, 02:47 PM
Seemed like a whole lot of nothing; if anything the fan was in the wrong.
The author points this out.
I will grant him that the contact itself was gentle and obviously caused no injury to the fan involved. I've even heard it described as more of a soft slap. So yes, it certainly could have been a much uglier situation all things considered, but the problem for Morgan is that he made completely unnecessary contact with a paying customer that was well within his rights as a fan. And he did so with pretty clear intent.
Had the fan reached over the wall to disrupt the play, you might be able to find some justification in Morgan's actions. Had the fan clearly grabbed Morgan, yes, gain separation by any means necessary. But Morgan knew where he was. He even understands what the fan was doing.
SmootSmack
06-28-2012, 03:14 PM
Morgan was trying to make a play on the ball. He wasn't headed for the stands purposely looking to get into it with this guy
NC_Skins
06-28-2012, 03:22 PM
Morgan was trying to make a play on the ball. He wasn't headed for the stands purposely looking to get into it with this guy
I don't think the author insinuated that. (nor I)
mooby
06-28-2012, 03:45 PM
Yeah that's weak. You're trying to crucify a guy for trying to get an out for his team? If I was that fan I'dve let Morgan catch the ball, then hope he's nice enough to toss it to me (which most players do in those kinds of situations). You're acting like he was in the wrong for trying to do his job.
SmootSmack
06-28-2012, 03:48 PM
I don't think the author insinuated that. (nor I)
"but the problem for Morgan is that he made completely unnecessary contact with a paying customer that was well within his rights as a fan. And he did so with pretty clear intent."
To me that implies a belief that Morgan intended to make contact with the fan, not just incidental contact while trying to make a play on a ball
NC_Skins
06-28-2012, 03:49 PM
Yeah that's weak. You're trying to crucify a guy for trying to get an out for his team? If I was that fan I'dve let Morgan catch the ball, then hope he's nice enough to toss it to me (which most players do in those kinds of situations). You're acting like he was in the wrong for trying to do his job.
Well, considering this was a road game, I doubt that you would have given a visiting team a opportunity to make a out on your team. That said, I agree with the author of the article and he's 100% right.
NC_Skins
06-28-2012, 03:51 PM
"but the problem for Morgan is that he made completely unnecessary contact with a paying customer that was well within his rights as a fan. And he did so with pretty clear intent."
To me that implies a belief that Morgan intended to make contact with the fan, not just incidental contact while trying to make a play on a ball
I'm quite positive he's reflecting on that slight shove, not the actual contact from trying to catch the ball. The first contact I'm quite positive was incidental, the second not so much. That is the point he's trying to make. No matter how small it seemed, (and he notes it was indeed small) it shouldn't have been made period.
SmootSmack
06-28-2012, 03:53 PM
Much ado about nothing in my opinion. I disagree with the author and he's 100% wrong
mooby
06-28-2012, 04:03 PM
Well, considering this was a road game, I doubt that you would have given a visiting team a opportunity to make a out on your team. That said, I agree with the author of the article and he's 100% right.
No, I doubt I would have tried to interfere with a player trying to do his job period. Opposing team or not. I'm there to spectate. Fans should not get in the way of players trying to do their job.