Alvin Walton
07-15-2012, 01:43 PM
Ladell Betts and Todd Collins?
ROTFL....they really had an impact on their new team.
ROTFL....they really had an impact on their new team.
Shanahan Tells Banks He Better Learn to Play WRAlvin Walton 07-15-2012, 01:43 PM Ladell Betts and Todd Collins? ROTFL....they really had an impact on their new team. HailGreen28 07-15-2012, 02:33 PM snip good list. Nice list. I'd qualify it with who really contributed. (Bolded what I think are the skins actual mistakes with hindsight, on your list). You and other knowledgeable posters please correct me where I screw up on this: Antonio Pierce- Won Super Bowl XLII with the Giants - Yeah, letting him go for what few thousand more to the Gnats was dumb. Andre Carter- went to Super Bowl XLVI with the Patriots - He didn't play in the SB due to injury (might've made a huge difference). Great guy and great 4-3 DE. Had a PB-like run with us year before, and with Pats last year, but he just didn't fit in the 3-4 we run (Can't cover). I guess whether this was a mistake depends on how our conversion to the 3-4 works out. Desmond Howard- Won Super Bowl XXXI with the Packers - No. He bounced around a couple teams before one year with Packers. Still a situational player (whopping 13 receptions at WR that year and was only a Packer one year). Had a great SB, but wasn't a major contributor other than that. Carlos Rogers- Went to NFC Championship as a 49er a year after left the Redskins - Maybe. He finally listened to people telling him to get contacts and had a great contract year. Verdict's out as to whether Skins could have handled this better, IMO. Devin Thomas- Won Super Bowl XLVI with the Giants - Lol, no. Giants have plenty of cheap shot artists to try giving people concussions in kick coverages. Mark Schlereth- Won Supers Bowls XXXII and XXXIII with the Broncos - Yeah, we shouldn't have let him go, even though he was a walking injury model. Stephen Davis- went to Super Bowl XXXVIII with the Panthers - Yeah we let him go because Spurrier's fun-n-gun was going to fix everything. (groan) Shaun Suisam- now on a winning Pittsburgh Steelers team - Yeah, and blame Danny Smith for this one. Guess between us, Dallass, and Pitt, only Pitt has good coaches in this area. Ladell Betts- reached playoffs with Saints a year after he left the Redskins - lol, no. Anybody could ride the pine, and I'm not sure Betts was even really active then. Mark Brunell- Won Super Bowl XLIV with Saints - No. See Betts. Ryan Clark- Won Super Bowl XLV with Pittsburgh Steelers - Yeah, case of us wanting superstars at every position. Dumb. Todd Collins- reached NFC Championship game with the Chicago Bears - No. I'm a Collins fan for what he did in '07, but he was godawful with the Bears. Shanny was bringing in McNabb, and our vet that knew the OC's playbook was Grossman not Collins. Terry Crews- former Redskins defensive end now a successful movie actor - ??? Rich Gannon - guided Raiders to Super Bowl XXXVII - Yeah, I don't think he was the problem when we let him go. His mobility was a big plus while here also. Brad Johnson- won Super Bowl XXXVII with Buccaneers - Yeah. Danny Snyder screwed us in so many ways in 2000. Ironic that Johnson and Gannon played against each other in SBXXXVII. Pierson Prioleau- won Super Bowl XLIV with the Saints - Not sure. He wasn't bad, but wasn't he "just" a good rotational player with us and Saints? Not sure if we or Saints needed him, with the other players both teams had. I think people like Ryan Clark or Antonio Pierce are a cut above. (Added)Champ Bailey - Went on to continue being an elite CB. - Not sure the Skins could have handled the situation better, anyways. And Clinton Portis contributed far more than Bailey and Tatum Bell would have, IMO. SmootSmack 07-15-2012, 02:45 PM Terry Crews? Really, that must be a joke. Seriously flawed list and doesn't change that more don't than do los panda 07-15-2012, 03:31 PM Terry Crews? Really, that must be a joke. Seriously flawed list and doesn't change that more don't than doi think he had a tackle for us in 1995 _cZzuMYBwo4 REDSKINS4ever 07-16-2012, 07:54 AM Terry Crews? Really, that must be a joke. Seriously flawed list and doesn't change that more don't than do I beg to differ. While all of the names on that aren't/weren't big names, some of them were. Gannon, B. Johnson, Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark, Carlos Rogers, and Schlereth were all very good players who the Redskins should have kept or re-signed. Brandon Banks may get released. Or maybe not. All I'm saying is we shouldn't be at all surprised if he's cut, is picked up by another team, and flourishes with that team. SmootSmack 07-16-2012, 08:07 AM Whatever makes you happy man Chico23231 07-16-2012, 09:06 AM I beg to differ. While all of the names on that aren't/weren't big names, some of them were. Gannon, B. Johnson, Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark, Carlos Rogers, and Schlereth were all very good players who the Redskins should have kept or re-signed. Brandon Banks may get released. Or maybe not. All I'm saying is we shouldn't be at all surprised if he's cut, is picked up by another team, and flourishes with that team. These are the only legit guys you need to mention. Carlos and Brad Johnson I believe are the only true difference makers. Gannon shouldnt be mentioned, but replaced with Stephen Davis. Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark and Schlereth had the benefit for playing on very good teams. I dont think of any of three as immensely talented guys, decent starters, not difference makers. CrustyRedskin 07-16-2012, 11:23 AM These are the only legit guys you need to mention. Carlos and Brad Johnson I believe are the only true difference makers. Gannon shouldnt be mentioned, but replaced with Stephen Davis. Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark and Schlereth had the benefit for playing on very good teams. I dont think of any of three as immensely talented guys, decent starters, not difference makers. He made a helluva difference to the Raiders, he should have played in two Super Bowls, but the Tuck Rule :vomit: knocked him out of one of them. |
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