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Ruhskins 09-23-2012, 07:21 PM Would have loved to pick up Carr, but do you think it's our DBs getting beat so bad or just being put into impossible situations? Overall, I've felt like our DBs have had some pretty decent coverage. We've had a few missed tackles, but when we give up short passes, it seems that everyone is wide open (including Wilson's side who I think is pretty good).
I still think the defense in general is not playing well. Pass rushing is iffy, LBs are getting abused by TEs, and the DBs are giving up way too much yardage in the pass three games.
In the end this falls on the coaches, esp the def coordinator.
Dirtbag59 09-23-2012, 07:26 PM Just in case anyone is wondering Alfred Morris is on pace for 1,400 yards this year. Obviously theres ups and downs and players get tired as the season goes on especially rookies who are use to shorter college season but it's still worth noting.
CultBrennan59 09-23-2012, 07:28 PM **** Landry, Carlos let himself go and RIP Mr. Taylor
All that said, I said before and I'll say again that I'd rather they had gone all out to get Carr from KC this off-season rather than Morgan, even Winston. I think you mask poor OL play much easier than you can mask poor DB play
I was on your boat too about that.
I'm going to look at FA's and make a thread for guys we can target next year.
CultBrennan59 09-23-2012, 07:30 PM You know what cracks me up the most about our team.
The fact that we can never be good at both offense AND defense.
Its like its a requirement to be good at one and bad at the other.
TheMalcolmConnection 09-23-2012, 07:31 PM I still think the defense in general is not playing well. Pass rushing is iffy, LBs are getting abused by TEs, and the DBs are giving up way too much yardage in the pass three games.
In the end this falls on the coaches, esp the def coordinator.
I agree about the DBs, but for me, it's mostly coaching. I just feel like our playcalls have terrible timing. When we blitz, it's like we pick the worst possible formation to do it in. I understand you can't always predict what the other team is going to do, but sometimes they should have a defensive audible. I like the aggressiveness, but when it's 2nd and 20, I don't care if it's 3rd and 30, just make them punt!
NC_Skins 09-23-2012, 07:32 PM Would have loved to pick up Carr, but do you think it's our DBs getting beat so bad or just being put into impossible situations? Overall, I've felt like our DBs have had some pretty decent coverage. We've had a few missed tackles, but when we give up short passes, it seems that everyone is wide open (including Wilson's side who I think is pretty good).
I think this type of defense is very dependent upon getting pressure up front. If you don't get pressure up front, you are going to be F'd.
If you look back at the Patriots when they were winning Super Bowls, you noticed their defense was incredible at the point of attack and LBs. It's a main reason why BB hasn't paid huge money to DBs, and a big reason why he let Asante Samuel walk. Vrabel, Seymour, Bruschi, McGinest, Coolvin, Johnson have all been beasts. The only DB to note on those squads is Ty Law, and Harrison was at the end of his career. I've always thought AS was overrated even back in NE. He jumped routes all the time and capitalized.
Right now, we simply aren't getting the pressure we need to up front and it shows.
NC_Skins 09-23-2012, 07:34 PM This.
I was/am happy with the Garcon signing. Thought Morgan was over the top and would have spent the money better on Carr.
Even without his signing, would our cap room allowed for us to be able to make that type of acquisition? Having that 18 mil stole from our cap was crucial.
TheMalcolmConnection 09-23-2012, 07:39 PM I think this type of defense is very dependent upon getting pressure up front. If you don't get pressure up front, you are going to be F'd.
If you look back at the Patriots when they were winning Super Bowls, you noticed their defense was incredible at the point of attack and LBs. It's a main reason why BB hasn't paid huge money to DBs, and a big reason why he let Asante Samuel walk. Vrabel, Seymour, Bruschi, McGinest, Coolvin, Johnson have all been beasts. The only DB to note on those squads is Ty Law, and Harrison was at the end of his career. I've always thought AS was overrated even back in NE. He jumped routes all the time and capitalized.
Right now, we simply aren't getting the pressure we need to up front and it shows.
I can see that to a certain extent. Who do you think is the weak link? I only ask because we had a ton of sacks last year with essentially the same group.
BigHairedAristocrat 09-23-2012, 07:43 PM need to find a replacement for jim haslett. guy blows goats, can't gameplan for a pee wee league team.
If anyone needs to go, it's Morris. Our secondary is the only problem on defense.
Gtothearry 09-23-2012, 07:43 PM We have no pass rush because we play 10yards off the receivers. There is nothing to disrupt the timing. A 0.5sec jam would make a huge difference with pressure.
The big catches are a result of a free release.
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