is the NFL shady or legit ?

I think its naive to think that games have never been fixed. There is proof in basketball, soccer, cricket, and baseball that points have been shaved and games fixed whether its by a player of a ref. The NFL is no different especially when you consider how most of the original NFL owners were notorious gamblers.

I think its naive to think that games have never been fixed. There is proof in basketball, soccer, cricket, and baseball that points have been shaved and games fixed whether its by a player of a ref. The NFL is no different especially when you consider how most of the original NFL owners were notorious gamblers.


Maybe back in the no helmet days, but in modern times? Highly doubt we wouldn't have heard something legit about it by now.

I am sure games have been fixed...but the league isn't fixing the while damn thing as was suggested. That's some serious tinfoil hat BS.

All I'm hearing is wild accusations generalizations.
Wheres a specific example for starters?

Yea, Tony Romo was told to fumble the hold.
He got $800,000 to do it if he kept quiet.
He was told if he didnt keep quiet that Marco and Guido would kill his mother.
:doh:

Bounty gate had the lid blown off in no time. How does anyone think rigging games could be held under wraps? I don't buy it at all.

I don't believe the NFL, itself, is fixed. It's not the WWE. However, it is 100% fact that each officiating crew is going to call a game differently. Some are going to let holding penalties go and call more pass interference while others will do the opposite. And I do believe that certain teams tend to get the benefit of the doubt more than others - usually teams that are amongst the "elite" teams of the league. Players have always said that there's something happening on every single play that could be called. Some players tend to get away with things more than others. And at least indirectly, that can help determine the outcome of the game.

Shouldn't this thread be here ....


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I don't believe the NFL, itself, is fixed. It's not the WWE. However, it is 100% fact that each officiating crew is going to call a game differently. Some are going to let holding penalties go and call more pass interference while others will do the opposite. And I do believe that certain teams tend to get the benefit of the doubt more than others - usually teams that are amongst the "elite" teams of the league. Players have always said that there's something happening on every single play that could be called. Some players tend to get away with things more than others. And at least indirectly, that can help determine the outcome of the game.

No doubt the human element plays in, but that's not the same as fixing games.

I think the mystique of football is exactly what the article refers to as "magic". Keeping 22 men, + coaches, + backups + everyone else involved moving in sync is not something that happens magically, and unexpected glitches, ie a bad snap, catching a football on the top of the helmet, etc, is the essence of what makes a 60 minute football game watchable, and exciting. Even a non-existent PI call, frustrating as it may be is more due to human fallibility, then some grandiose rigging scheme.

No doubt the human element plays in, but that's not the same as fixing games.

I agree, refs calling games differently isnt game fixing.

There is no way the NFL is manipulating games a la the WWE because if they did there's no way Vegas would allow gambling on the games anymore. That was the big thing with the XFL, the WWE guaranteed to Vegas that they would manipulate the games like they did to wrestling matches so that Vegas would put out a line and take bets on the game.

With that said I do think NFL games have been and still are occasionally fixed by organized crime or whoever but not the NFL. I think maybe 1 or 2 games total per season might be fixed. I think a fix would be done more to punish someone or make a point than as a way to make $ since it seems that trying to organize a fix to make $ is way more difficult than just going to Vegas, using the mountain of information available and making a bet.