New Stadium for the Redskins being planned . . .

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tshile
09-03-2014, 03:24 PM
I believe Snyder pays for that.

At least he pays for police. I'm assuming he pays for the EMS/Fire fighters that are there too.

Snyder also pays for stadium maintenance.

I'm sure PG county pays for road maintenance, as they agreed to in the contract.

Did you do the math yet on the tax revenue?

NC_Skins
09-03-2014, 03:24 PM
I believe Snyder pays for that.

At least he pays for police. I'm assuming he pays for the EMS/Fire fighters that are there too.

Snyder also pays for stadium maintenance.

I'm sure PG county pays for road maintenance, as they agreed to in the contract.

Did you do the math yet on the tax revenue?


So for them to be profitable. They have to gain over the course of 30 years than what they've put in. Simple formula:

Revenue -[70mil + (annual expenses x 30)]= Profit/Loss

Giantone
09-03-2014, 04:12 PM
I believe Snyder pays for that.

At least he pays for police. I'm assuming he pays for the EMS/Fire fighters that are there too.

Snyder also pays for stadium maintenance.

I'm sure PG county pays for road maintenance, as they agreed to in the contract.

Did you do the math yet on the tax revenue?

Add in "inflation " what would it cost today to add the same roads ,sewers ,Metro,etc . Do you think in over the 30 years(lease) that people bought fuel , clothing , food, went to restaurants in PG county ,did they pay taxes ,did the retailers pay taxes ,did those retailers profit from the infrastructure around Fed Ex since it is used every day and just not on game day ?

Giantone
09-03-2014, 04:18 PM
Add in "inflation " what would it cost today to add the same roads ,sewers ,Metro,etc . Do you think in over the 30 years(lease) that people bought fuel , clothing , food, went to restaurants in PG county ,did they pay taxes ,did the retailers pay taxes ,did those retailers profit from the infrastructure around Fed Ex since it is used every day and just not on game day ?



I bring this up because the FBI is looking at the old Landover Mall site as one of it's locations to move to ,if it is chosen the "infrastructure is already in place from the exits on the Beltway to the Metro stop are all in place ,what would have been the cost if they had waited to do it all now ,would the FBI even be looking at PG county if all that wasn't there , no .

tshile
09-03-2014, 04:18 PM
So for them to be profitable. They have to gain over the course of 30 years than what they've put in. Simple formula:

Revenue x 30 -[70mil + (road maintenance x 30)]= Profit/Loss

Right.

Have you done the math on the revenue yet?

ps - fixed your formula :)

Giantone
09-03-2014, 04:24 PM
In our world when the billionaire baseball owner threatens to leave town unless the public finance his new stadium the billionaire football owner is likely to ask for the same deal. In Giantone's world baseball and football have nothing to do with each other.
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In the two stadiums being discussed they don't ,Fed Ex and Met Life in NJ . Now prove me wrong .

saden1
09-03-2014, 05:30 PM
You forgot the biggest detail of all. You forgot to subtract expenses (initial and reoccurring). Add up all the expenses on fire/rescue/police/road maintenance/ stadium maintenance/ etc... and subtract it from the revenue.

Don't forget to factor in opportunity cost (http://www.financialcalculator.org/personal-finance/opportunity-cost-calculator)!

If you spend $70,000,000.00 on an unnecessary product or service, and you could otherwise invest that money for 30 years at 4%, then spending the $70,000,000.00 could cost you $161,944,861.02 in forgone interest earnings. This would bring the real price-tag of what you are spending your money on to $231,944,861.02. So the question you should ask yourself is: Is what I am spending my money on worth $231,944,861.02?

saden1
09-03-2014, 05:42 PM
In the two stadiums being discussed they don't ,Fed Ex and Met Life in NJ . Now prove me wrong .

Don't try that narrowing of the subject shit with me. We are talking about the precedence set when you pay for the football or baseball stadium. Also, you seem to not understand the fact that the Gaints and Jets tried to get the public to build them a stadium but failed. See West Side Stadium Story (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Side_Stadium). Unlike most sports teams they, of course, can't threaten to leave the biggest market in the nation though the NFL did manage to slightly punish the good people of NY....

In reaction to the state representatives' decision to reject the stadium's funding, the NFL decided on August 11 to reopen the bidding for the game site of Super Bowl XLIV. The eventual winner was Sun Life Stadium.

NC_Skins
09-03-2014, 05:46 PM
Right.

Have you done the math on the revenue yet?

ps - fixed your formula :)


They pay more expenses than just road maintenance.

CRedskinsRule
09-03-2014, 06:04 PM
I can't see it being a loss for the county, it may not be a huge gainer, but it probably is at least revenue neutral. No I haven't done any math, but if Stadiums were sinkholes, people wouldn't be clamoring to get them, as AT&T would say, it's not complicated.

I mean, I know the math can be complicated, and lots of variables come in to play, but really really bottom line, if PG County could point to FedEx and say that's where all the money is going, and try to get Dan Snyder to somehow pony up more money, there would be politicians out wazoo making that statement.

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