Basically, it all starts with Portis

Mind your words your post is no better than anyone elses.


[QUOTE=offiss]Relying on another posters ignorant comment as the basis to discredit a post

It's not like I would expect you to understand what I am talking about, there is a difference between a football man, and a football fan, I never called anyone an idiot, but if lack of understanding and insight on the breakdown of the game makes you feel like one, that's something you will have to deal with.

apparently understanding isn't really your forte, since a simple post seems to have gone way over your head. better luck next time.

Your post was just another I told you so based on nothing... I see no facts that in any way prove you could have done better or that the redskins would be better without those players... who'd replace CS, how much would he cost? what about portis? what's hiss replacements price tag? you think betts would have performed nearly as well? if so i'd say you'd be in a small minority there. Next time before busting out the holier-than-thou, look-how-smart-i-am, I-told-you-so, the-FO-sucks-because-they're-not-doing-what-i-told-them-to-do-in-hindsight
crap, maybe you should take a deep breathe and not be so reactionary.

how come you didn't make such a big f**cking deal about this last week? or the week before? all of a sudden we lose and suprise, we've got a home grown genius with enough hindsight to tell us all why life isn't worth living if not done his way.

what you offered wasn't a breakdown (those contain facts and analysis) - it was another pointless convenient rant following a loss.

apparently understanding isn't really your forte, since a simple post seems to have gone way over your head. better luck next time.

Your post was just another I told you so based on nothing... I see no facts that in any way prove you could have done better or that the redskins would be better without those players... who'd replace CS, how much would he cost? what about portis? what's hiss replacements price tag? you think betts would have performed nearly as well? if so i'd say you'd be in a small minority there. Next time before busting out the holier-than-thou, look-how-smart-i-am, I-told-you-so, the-FO-sucks-because-they're-not-doing-what-i-told-them-to-do-in-hindsight
crap, maybe you should take a deep breathe and not be so reactionary.

how come you didn't make such a big f**cking deal about this last week? or the week before? all of a sudden we lose and suprise, we've got a home grown genius with enough hindsight to tell us all why life isn't worth living if not done his way.

what you offered wasn't a breakdown (those contain facts and analysis) - it was another pointless convenient rant following a loss.


NUF' SAID!

how come you didn't make such a big f**cking deal about this last week? or the week before? all of a sudden we lose and suprise, we've got a home grown genius with enough hindsight to tell us all why life isn't worth living if not done his way.

what you offered wasn't a breakdown (those contain facts and analysis) - it was another pointless convenient rant following a loss.

Haven't you picked up on this pattern yet?

After a loss that's when all the armchair GMs come out to play.

Boring and predictable. :sleep:

Haven't you picked up on this pattern yet?

After a loss that's when all the armchair GMs come out to play.

Boring and predictable. :sleep:


AMEN!

I mean, i've personally said letting pierce leave was a huge mistake almost every week (i also beat the brunnel trade to death, who knew? oh yeah, Gibbs), but some people seem to enjoy bashing anyone that gets over 4mill a year just because they're not #1 in the league.

Portis isn't LT, but i'd still put him in the top 10, and you might say he did horribly in this game, but LT also put up a 7 yard game recently, so it happens (And not just to us). Samuels isn't the best tackle, but he's not our worst lineman either, and good experienced Ol guys aren't easy to find.

We've got overpaid guys, but we're not alone in that. And just because they make a lot doesn't mean we can just toss them and plug in backup X and not see a huge dropoff, despite what some might think.

I mean, i've personally said letting pierce leave was a huge mistake almost every week (i also beat the brunnel trade to death, who knew? oh yeah, Gibbs), but some people seem to enjoy bashing anyone that gets over 4mill a year just because they're not #1 in the league.

Very good points. It does seem like a common theme on these boards to bash anyone that makes money. If a player making money is your biggest gripe, you should complain to Snyder, because even if he wasn't paying our current players big bucks, he'd be paying someone else.

The only person that has escaped this scrutiny so far this year is Santana Moss, and that's only because he leads the league in receiving. God forbid he has a few off weeks. Half the forum will be screaming that he's overrated and "isn't the gamechanger we thought he'd be".

Funny how Offiss shows up all of a sudden........after a loss.

Same ol story.......yawn.

Look what a terrible defeat has done to these posts. Since the Skins have lost, now we should not have traded for Portis. Last time I checked, no running back can produce with four carries. Waive Robert Royal. He did drop over four passes but what are the alternatives. Royal had a bad game, the team had a bad game, move on.
Bench Holdman. Okay I agree with that. I'm tired of seeing 50 yard runs off left tackle. Brunnel holds onto the ball too long. From what I can tell, he was going through his progressions and no one was open in the time he was alloted. Late in the game the Giants disregarded the run and came after Brunnel and the situation got worse. There is nothing positive to say about this game. Forget about and move on. Concentrate on attacking the Eagles weaknesses. The Eagle game will say alot about whether the Skins are a playoff team or not.

Nobody's talking about CUTTING Clinton Portis. Some have simply observed the he has not exactly had the game-changing impact that many expected when we gave up Champ Bailey and a second round pick to get him. Outside of that one run against the Buccaneers on opening day last year, he's accomplished about as much as any other running back could have done for far less.

It's just another cog in the wheel of recklessly charging after high priced free agents at a time when most of us thought that strategy would cease with the cool-headed nature of Joe Gibbs calling the shots. Instead, we pay for moves like this without any depth at critical spots along both lines, while bargaining away draft picks year after year.

When the Skins were 3-0, Clinton Portis had 4.17 yards per carry and zero touchdowns. In eight games against NFC East opponents as a Redskin, he's been good for 3.6 yards per carry. That's an average performance, jdlea. That's not calling for him to be cut, that's calling it like it is.

Maybe it's just me, but considering what we parted with to get him, I guess I just expected more at this point.

Apparently, I was asking WAY too much.

Okay, my mistake...maybe not cut him, just bench him. There's plenty of people saying that. Plenty of people saying that he's not cut out for the offense and that Betts would be a better back. Also, Offiss wanted to gripe about how much everybody makes like it's stupid to pay people. I get the feeling if Offiss had it his way the Skins in the top 25 highest paid players in the league would be gone. So, IMO it seems like he wants him cut. If you didn't say cut him, my post didn't refer to you.

I didn't say Portis is the best back in the league, but he's a very good running back. The problem is Joe Gibbs didn't get the right back for his system. If Gibbs can't adapt to a speed back, that's his own fault.