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Mel Kiper on Monk
Mel Kiper Jr was on ESPN radio last night and was asked by the host, Jason Smith what he thought about Curtis Martin being considered for the Hall of Fame. Kiper went off. He said the HoF was a joke and that it was a travesty that Art Monk isn't in already. He said the selection process was no more than a bunch of guys sitting in a room and throwing out names. He mentioned bias, vindictive attitudes and sabotage when sending or preventing players from the Hall. He was extremely upset about Monk and said that the HOF was essentially a joke. It was great to hear him so passionate about our boy Art.
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
That just made my day a little brighter.
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
He said Lenny P told him how they select the HoF'ers. Sit in a room and throw darts at a list of names.
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
How did the host respond to the Monk comments?
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
Martin is like the Monk of RBs. A vastly underrated guy who did his job, didn't complain, and had a long and successful career. It is a shame to hear Martin getting pub when Monk continues to get the snub.
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
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Just a thought.
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
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Back when Monk played we didn't have the internet and the 24/7 in your face media coverage. But the guys that vote are all old enough to have seen Monk play with their own eyes. That alone should speak for itself. |
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
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Someone fill me in, What did Martin ever accomplish? Getting to the Super Bowl? Winning a few divisions and a rushing title? Big Deal. Under that criteria if Alexander retired tomorrow he would be in. Hell, vote in Eddie George. Obviously, stats don't get you in. Compare Monk to Swann, Stallworth etc. Monk had great stats when he retired. Kiper is right. The voters are idiots and basically choose on a whim. |
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
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Winning the SB is not (nor should it be) a prerequisite for getting into the Hall. |
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
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When did I say that Barry Sanders shouldn't be in the hall? He is probably the best pure runner of all time. He would have run for 25,000 yards if he wanted to. Martin was on a lot of bad teams and it would be a travesty if he gets in before Monk. |
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
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However, you're right: the hall doesn't care much for stats ... it's a popularity contest.
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
Very well said Matty. Neither player ever tooted their own horn, they just showed up, and did their respective jobs very well over many years. That Monk has 3 rings as part of his strong resume makes his snub even a greater travesty.
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
I think that is the biggest single reason why Monk isn't in the HoF. Unfortunately, self-promoters make the highlight reels and get more than their fair share of praise.
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Re: Mel Kiper on Monk
To say Martin had a successful career is an understatement, Martin is the #4 all time leading rusher. He's a lock for the HoF.
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